Trump Social Media Addiction

[Aseahawkfan]

Trump's now twittering about South Africa. Why is this moron involving us in a nation dealing with racial problems we have no business involving ourselves in? He just keeps on doing dumb things. I sometimes wonder if Trump is trying to get himself thrown out of office almost as though his subconscious is pushing him to higher and higher levels of stupid just to get out of The White House. Then if they throw him out, he can say he tried and spend his time on talk shows and twitter manipulating his followers. I still have no idea why a billionaire with a successful reality TV empire decided to become president. I wonder if he even really enjoys being president. He's under constant attack as most presidents are. His twittering seems like some kind of addiction meant to get him attention. It's like he's addicted to the world reacting to his tweets.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-sparks-outrage-tweeting-075653628.html

When will we have a president that doesn't inspire this insane stupidity from the American public? Will it ever happen in my lifetime again? I feel like the last president where I didn't have to witness this level ridiculous behavior from the American public was Reagan and Bush Sr. Maybe a more neutral American environment will never be again with the advent of social media and the 24/7 news cycle. Maybe this is the new normal, constant news and fighting in the social media environment between adherents to both parties and all beliefs. This will likely be the new normal we have to live in. A fish bowl of constant information delivery. I hate Twitter. I would vote right now for politicians, especially presidents to not be allowed to Twitter.

[RiverDog]

I do not think that this is the beginning of a new era, ie the Twitter era. Trump is an anomaly. Once he's gone...and the sooner the better...things will get back to normal, so long as Jerry Springer or Howard Stern doesn't decide to run.

And it's not just Trump's tweets. He's sparring openly with Jeff Sessions in sit down interviews. I've never seen such turmoil in an administration as I have with this one.

[Aseahawkfan]

I've never seen a president insult and attack so many of his own supporters. As Idhawkan said, he runs the country like he runs his company. I don't think that is a good thing.

[RiverDog]

I've never seen a president insult and attack so many of his own supporters. As Idhawkan said, he runs the country like he runs his company. I don't think that is a good thing.

Jeff Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump and helped him get elected. As close as the election was, it's fair to argue that Trump might not have gotten elected had it not been for Sessions support. Sessions did the right thing by recusing himself of the Russian probe because he was part of Trump's election campaign team. There was a huge potential conflict of interest having someone that was part of the campaign directing an investigation of the campaign, and would have damaged the credibility of the report if it comes down on Trump's side.

Trump runs the country like a mob boss runs his family. It's like he's wanting them to take some sort of blood oath.

[idhawkman]

Jeff Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump and helped him get elected. As close as the election was, it's fair to argue that Trump might not have gotten elected had it not been for Sessions support. Sessions did the right thing by recusing himself of the Russian probe because he was part of Trump's election campaign team. There was a huge potential conflict of interest having someone that was part of the campaign directing an investigation of the campaign, and would have damaged the credibility of the report if it comes down on Trump's side.

Trump runs the country like a mob boss runs his family. It's like he's wanting them to take some sort of blood oath.

Again, fake news. Sessions quoted a law that did not pertain to the situation when he recused himself. The law he quoted as the reason to recuse himself was specific to an investigation but at the time, the Russia issue was a counter intelligence operation and there was no investigation. Had he not recused himself, it would have stayed as a counter intelligence op and never became an investigation. We would have a lot more answers by now had that happened.

[RiverDog]

Again, fake news. Sessions quoted a law that did not pertain to the situation when he recused himself. The law he quoted as the reason to recuse himself was specific to an investigation but at the time, the Russia issue was a counter intelligence operation and there was no investigation. Had he not recused himself, it would have stayed as a counter intelligence op and never became an investigation. We would have a lot more answers by now had that happened.

Now you're arguing about a technicality. Sessions was part of the 2016 Trump campaign so it makes total sense that he recuse himself of the investigation.

I don't know why Trump just doesn't go ahead and fire Sessions. All he's done is whine about him recusing himself from the investigation ever since it was formed. It's like no other issue involving the Justice Department matters to DJT. He might as well fire him and put in some stooge that he has more control over.

Trump's constant public ridiculing of Jeff Sessions is another example of why I feel that Trump is a poor manager. One of the most basic principles of supervision is that you praise in public and chastize in private. It's one of the many reasons why I feel that DJT is such a poor leader.

[Aseahawkfan]

I like that Sessions seems like a straight-arrow running the Justice Department. Usually you want a very by the book individual running the DoJ.

That being said Trump needs a Janet Reno. People forget that Janet Reno crushed any Department of Justice investigations into the Clintons. Reno was a Clinton Enforcer. She did not allow the Clintons to be threatened if she could help it. Trump could use a Janet Reno right now.

[RiverDog]

I like that Sessions seems like a straight-arrow running the Justice Department. Usually you want a very by the book individual running the DoJ.

Agreed.

IMO the AG should not be a cabinet position. "Justice" implies impartiality.

[Aseahawkfan]

IMO the AG should not be a cabinet position. "Justice" implies impartiality.

Glad you put "justice" in quotes. That's a seriously loaded term in our current bureaucracy.

[RiverDog]

Glad you put "justice" in quotes. That's a seriously loaded term in our current bureaucracy.

Well, that wasn't why I put that term in quotes. I did so to indicate that there are times that the AG is anything but fair and impartial as "justice" would indicate, or that the AG can be unduly influenced by the political objectives of his superior, ie the POTUS.

[Hawktawk]

Trump is mentally ill and one need only look at his blizzard of angry unhinged tweets mere minutes apart and now coming at midnight and 1 AM. Any yes RD so many attacks on law enforcement while he wraps himself in the flag.

Listen MF its not your justice department. Its the peoples. Its to defend us, not you....Please take your meds and get some sleep.

[Hawktawk]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kx

Maybe there is hope after all. Despite Trump's increasingly shrill diatribes on social media and in person it's finally sinking in to americans what a corrupt liar he is.

And watch out for the republicans in the congress Trump. When your poll numbers get toxic even they will jump off the sinking ship. Ask Nixon.

[idhawkman]

Trump is mentally ill and one need only look at his blizzard of angry unhinged tweets mere minutes apart and now coming at midnight and 1 AM. Any yes RD so many attacks on law enforcement while he wraps himself in the flag.

Listen MF its not your justice department. Its the peoples. Its to defend us, not you....Please take your meds and get some sleep.

Actually, it is his Justice department. Read the constitution.

[Hawktawk]

Listen MF its not your justice department. Its the peoples. Its to defend us, not you....Please take your meds and get some sleep.

Actually, it is his Justice department. Read the constitution.[/quote]

No its not. The judiciary and AG should be independent. Its his in a banana republic which he's trying to make america into to save his absolutely worthless ass.

Regardless of whether this criminal is removed from office or not this nation needs to take a good long look at the powers a president currently has to avoid accountability.

Its said a sitting president cannot be indicted and Mueller has reportedly reached that conclusion. Why? Why can he fire someone who is investigating his personal corruption and his conspiracy with russia. Why? What good does it do this country having a lawless unaccountable chief executive?

It's time for a change.

[RiverDog]

Actually, it is his Justice department. Read the constitution.

No, you point out where it is in the Constitution, complete with the article and/or amendment, and please provide a link.

The fact is that the President derives his/her authority over the Justice Department via an act of Congress, not from the Constitution.

https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2017/12/the-c ... f-justice/

[Aseahawkfan]

Actually, it is his Justice department. Read the constitution.

The President and all the government are answerable to the people. So saying the Justice Department is the president's is an attempt to get around that the president himself is supposed to be a representative of the people. That includes acting in a manner that is respectful of the institutions created to protect the people like the Department of Justice. Trump's bullying of Jeff Sessions is crude and pathetic. I get it. He needs a Janet Reno to protect him from being impeached and attacked, but the reality is the people could use an impartial and straight-arrow head of the Department of Justice.

I don't know why you defend his bullying of people that don't agree with him, Idhawkman. You don't seem like that kind of person, much less supporting that kind of behavior.

And his fear-mongering over the election midterms is just more Trump low-class bullying behavior. Is he trying to scare people away from voting with claims of violence if the Republicans lose during the mid-terms? What kind of pathetic attempt to convince people to vote for him is that?

[RiverDog]

"Actually, it is his Justice department. Read the constitution."

The President and all the government are answerable to the people. So saying the Justice Department is the president's is an attempt to get around that the president himself is supposed to be a representative of the people. That includes acting in a manner that is respectful of the institutions created to protect the people like the Department of Justice. Trump's bullying of Jeff Sessions is crude and pathetic. I get it. He needs a Janet Reno to protect him from being impeached and attacked, but the reality is the people could use an impartial and straight-arrow head of the Department of Justice.

I don't know why you defend his bullying of people that don't agree with him, Idhawkman. You don't seem like that kind of person, much less supporting that kind of behavior.

And his fear-mongering over the election midterms is just more Trump low-class bullying behavior. Is he trying to scare people away from voting with claims of violence if the Republicans lose during the mid-terms? What kind of pathetic attempt to convince people to vote for him is that?

Trump's been trash talking everybody and anybody ever since he took office, from Jeff Sessions to Mueller to the NFL players to the producers of Rosanne. It's getting so routine that people don't pay any attention to what he says anymore. That's one of the reasons why I think his support has remained relatively unchanged, because he opens his yapper so often that he's caused people to become callous to his verbal diarrhea.

Trump's really been playing the fear card lately, including telling people that the stock market would crash and that the country would go to hell in a hand basket should Congress impeach him even though there's no evidence to support his claim. And he's really ratcheting up his rhetoric about the Mueller Investigation, the latest twist now that he's calling it illegal. It makes one wonder why he's so paranoid about it as he's acting like the cat that ate the canary.

[idhawkman]

No, you point out where it is in the Constitution, complete with the article and/or amendment, and please provide a link.

The fact is that the President derives his/her authority over the Justice Department via an act of Congress, not from the Constitution.

https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2017/12/the-c ... f-justice/

Article 2, section 2 paragraph 2 of the US constitution states:

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law:

You act as if we don't live in a republic but that we live in a democracy.

[idhawkman]

The President and all the government are answerable to the people.

Only through their representatives in congress. The people can not remove the president, only their reprentatives in congress can do that through impeachment and then the senate has to confirm it for removal.

So saying the Justice Department is the president's is an attempt to get around that the president himself is supposed to be a representative of the people.

And he is. He is representing the people like me who voted for him and who are sick and tired of the P.C. crap of the left's agenda being shoved down our throats.

[/quote]That includes acting in a manner that is respectful of the institutions created to protect the people like the Department of Justice. [/quote]

There's no where in the constitution that this is a requirement. It is a made up thing. Do you think Lincoln was respectful of the congress that represented the states who wanted to seperate?

Trump's bullying of Jeff Sessions is crude and pathetic. I get it. He needs a Janet Reno to protect him from being impeached and attacked, but the reality is the people could use an impartial and straight-arrow head of the Department of Justice.

Which is why Trump is ticked at Sessions. The bias that is being displayed every day with the witch hunt and the exhoneration of Clinton is so stark that many of us believe that Sessions and the conflicted Rosenstein is not being independent nor fair.

I don't know why you defend his bullying of people that don't agree with him, Idhawkman. You don't seem like that kind of person, much less supporting that kind of behavior.

Do you not see the damage being done to this country by the press and attacks against this president? This president is the most transparent president in history. You don't have to wonder what he's thinking or doing, he lets you know straight up.

And his fear-mongering over the election midterms is just more Trump low-class bullying behavior. Is he trying to scare people away from voting with claims of violence if the Republicans lose during the mid-terms? What kind of pathetic attempt to convince people to vote for him is that?

You may call if fear mongering but can you honestly say that they won't try to impeach him or take back the tax cuts or put back in place the globalization regulations or change the judges he's gotten approved? He's talking straight and that is what scares the hell out of the swamp monsters and political class more than anything else.

BTW, he's not on the ballot in the mid terms but the congress folks running will either support or resist his agenda.

[idhawkman]

Trump's been trash talking everybody and anybody ever since he took office, from Jeff Sessions to Mueller to the NFL players to the producers of Rosanne. It's getting so routine that people don't pay any attention to what he says anymore.

So now you purport to speak for everyone? C'mon, that is hyperbole at its highest.

That's one of the reasons why I think his support has remained relatively unchanged, because he opens his yapper so often that he's caused people to become callous to his verbal diarrhea.

So their callousness has doubled his support among african americans and hispanics? I think you are hoping and guessing with this.

Trump's really been playing the fear card lately, including telling people that the stock market would crash and that the country would go to hell in a hand basket should Congress impeach him even though there's no evidence to support his claim. And he's really ratcheting up his rhetoric about the Mueller Investigation, the latest twist now that he's calling it illegal. It makes one wonder why he's so paranoid about it as he's acting like the cat that ate the canary.

Heavy sigh, it is illegal and violates the consent clause of the constitution, it also doesn't state a crime in order to establish the special counsel.

[Aseahawkfan]

Only through their representatives in congress. The people can not remove the president, only their reprentatives in congress can do that through impeachment and then the senate has to confirm it for removal.

What exactly are you implying here? That the president is a tyrant? No, he is very much answerable to the people. And if they cannot remove him by vote, the 2nd Amendment was made for such occasions as a president thinking himself above the will of the people.

And he is. He is representing the people like me who voted for him and who are sick and tired of the P.C. crap of the left's agenda being shoved down our throats.

So you support and agree with crass bullying and name-calling by your representative leader? You do not seem this way, but I could be wrong. You don't have to be answering every petty insult or disagreement with a similar insult or petty comment.

There's no where in the constitution that this is a requirement. It is a made up thing. Do you think Lincoln was respectful of the congress that represented the states who wanted to seperate?

So good manners and public decorum when respecting the office must be written into the Constitution for them to be practiced? That's how you really see it? So I have to write down a law for you to say open a door for a woman, not bully some kid with namecalling, and basically act in a civil respectful manner or such behavior doesn't matter? You never practiced any manners and polite behavior that wasn't written down in a book for you? You say for example told your mother to "piss off" because it wasn't written down somewhere in law? C'mon, stop already. It's bad behavior and you know it.

Which is why Trump is ticked at Sessions. The bias that is being displayed every day with the witch hunt and the exhoneration of Clinton is so stark that many of us believe that Sessions and the conflicted Rosenstein is not being independent nor fair.

Sessions was part of the campaign. He recused himself from the investigation to allow a greater level of transparency. Everything I read about Sessions was that he was a by the book guy that wanted to instill a very black and white vision of justice. That is normally a true conservative viewpoint. Now you want to allow Trump to weaponize the Justice Department to attack those he views as enemies or insulting him? Do you want an impartial justice department or one that goes after whoever the presidents wants?

Trump needs to let this play out and stop fueling the attacks. Clinton played out the end game of an impeachment. If he didn't collude with Russia in a way that is illegal, then he'll be fine. Some obstruction charges or payouts to pornstars is not likely to unseat a sitting president. If some granny somewhere is wringing her hands and crying, "Oh Lord, I did not know Trump was the kind of man to sleep around with harlots", then clueless granny needs to wake up. Anyone that didn't know the gold throne sitting billionaire from New York wasn't banging around was asleep at the wheel.

Do you not see the damage being done to this country by the press and attacks against this president? This president is the most transparent president in history. You don't have to wonder what he's thinking or doing, he lets you know straight up.

He's part of the damage. He dug himself a hole with his stupid tape talking about what he does with women. He's cheated on multiple wives, hired multiple snakes around him that are now turning on him, and generally caused all derision with his petty attacks and insults for stupid things like inauguration crowd size and the size of his hands. He could be handling agenda without this level of acrimony if he would learn why presidents don't talk every day on Twitter. They have things to get done and the press is going to attack them on a constant basis. Every single president knows this and reacts accordingly. Obama knew Fox News is going to go after all he does. Bush Jr. knew CNBC and CNN were going to go after almost all he did. It's the nature of being a face man for a powerful nation involved in world affairs.

You may call if fear mongering but can you honestly say that they won't try to impeach him or take back the tax cuts or put back in place the globalization regulations or change the judges he's gotten approved? He's talking straight and that is what scares the hell out of the swamp monsters and political class more than anything else.

Swamp monsters? He has a bunch of swamp monsters on his staff. He is a swamp monster. He's old school money. Did you notice that he was the one that hired people like Omarosa and Cohen? They're swamp sucking snakes and you don't want to see it for some reason. He's friends with all kinds of swamp monsters. And did you see all the corporate contributions coming his way through Cohen? Consultation? Do you really believe that?

Yes, if the Democrats take the House they will move to impeach, but Trump will only be removed if they find actionable evidence beyond what they have now. Most presidents would be smart enough to stop threatening the justice department when that looks amazingly like strong-arm coercion tactics to the public. I know for some reason you've plugged your ears and started screaming, "nanananana. I'm not listening", but I can't see how you can think threatening the removal of a Justice Department head for not supporting Republicans and a particular party during elections is what you call quality behavior. Sure, he's transparent, like a CEO wanting to fire those that don't do his bidding.

BTW, he's not on the ballot in the mid terms but the congress folks running will either support or resist his agenda.

I don't support this president. I don't like him as president. I haven't supported him from the start. I like some of his policies, but I knew he was a narcissistic dishonest salesman going into the election. He hasn't changed. Same old Trump he's always been using his salesman skills and charisma to get what he wants and giving anyone that disagrees with him the finger. He's used to being in command within his empire. And as I told all the Deranged Anti-Trump Folk, the presidency is a gilded cage as intended by the Founders.

If we can't find a president that can act like a civil human being in the face of criticism that can implement the policies that are best for this nation and cleave to its values, then we're on our way to a banana republic. This has reached a level of stupid on both sides I can barely stomach. I don't know how the nation has come to this. We just had an election where our choices were the billionaire reality TV star of New York old money and the wife of a former president. I feel like I'm living in some modern day feudal society where the nobles are fighting while the peasant, merchant, and military class watch and choose sides.

[Aseahawkfan]

Heavy sigh, it is illegal and violates the consent clause of the constitution, it also doesn't state a crime in order to establish the special counsel.

What part of the consent clause? It seems that the consent clause leaves a lot open for the Senate to appoint folks or leave appointments up to department heads. Wasn't Rod Rosenstein acting as head of the Justice Department after Sessions recused himself when appointing Mueller?