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"Bloomberg's stance on the 2nd Amendment will have the Republicans and pro-gun groups out in droves. Bloomberg is right there with Beto O'rourke for 2nd Amendment attacks. He spent billions to attack the 2nd Amendment in nearly every state. You think Bloomberg looks ok right now, but if he gets the nomination he has so many chinks in the armor that Trump will easily rile up the right and many independents in this nation against him. He is one of the worst politicians in extreme attacks on the 2nd Amendment. I think that will rile up many states against him if he comes close to getting the nomination including borderline states like Texas and Florida."
"Bloomberg may look good to you right now, but I guarantee if he wins the nomination Trump will beat him. Bloomberg is a major threat to many of the important issues on the right and has a lot of problems in his background even for the left as he's another billionaire out of touch with the extreme left of his party."
"So if you want Trump to win, then push Bloomberg. Trump will welcome it. Bloomberg will set the right on fire if he gets the nomination and he will send 2nd Amendment activists to polls in droves in many key states, many of them independents."
" Trump wants Bloomberg to win the nomination. Read on Bloomberg quotes for the 2nd Amendment. Then imagine how that will play in key states like Florida and Texas. Also, you think the working class in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are going to buy into some billionaire looking to take their guns and tell them how life should be? I'm doubtful. Very doubtful"
I look at this gun debate much as I look at the abortion debate. Both parties use it to rile up the base. But what's the reality? Obama held the office for 8 years and nobody lost their guns. Reagan, GW held the office for 8 years and abortion remains the law of the land although this president has worked the hardest and Judge shopped the most to restrict it.
Regardless, Bloomberg's stance limiting or outlawing sale of assault style weapons is popular among well over half the population, a political winner and even some gun retailers have unilaterally stopped selling these weapons at great financial loss.There are already over 14 million of these weapons out on the street.70% including many NRA members have voiced support for tougher universal background checks and the organization itself is struggling with financial debt and declining membership.
Regardless there are over 300 million guns on the street in the hands of 150 million people give or take. It's a militia alright, one of the largest armies in the world, just unregulated. But nobody's taking your gun away unless it's necessary regardless of party in power and sadly many of the latest high profile shoots involved police not following up on existing laws beforehand and preventing these tragedies. I say these things as a kid who took hunters safety class and was shooting birds at age 14, in hindsight too young by far. But I'm a defender of the second amendment
I think the vicious attacks by his primary moderate competitors on this brusque tough talking billionaire are stupid as Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump totally skated in the debate.He said afterward it "wasn't my best night" but also that "they were just yelling at each other and I didnt have a chance to say what I wanted to say."They should be focusing on Donald Trump" HEAR HEAR!!!
I thought he showed great restraint . Imagine trump's demeanor under such a withering attack.I think he will counterpunch hard next debate. Beyond that it was Bloomberg's money driving the midterm blue wave in the house and he's already committed to spending unlimited amounts of money in the general whether he's the nominee or not.Not the guy you want to p!$$ off
And the guy may be diminutive in stature but he's a bulldog who didn't go from unemployed at 38 to worth over 60 billion and 3 terms as NY mayor without some serious gravitas. Hit stop and frisk policies have been known for a while and yet he's pulling even with Biden among blacks who say overwhelmingly that beating Trump is their #1 qualification making them far more pragmatic than the liberal ninnies on the far left. And as crude and objectionable as some of his comments regarding women were there's no suggestion of sexual assault, porn stars, no taped bragging about being able to assault women.No business scandals Im aware of, no collusion .
And one more big difference. Bloomberg has apologized for these actions and just released 3 women from non disclosure agreements.I've never heard Trump apologize one time in his entire life. Painting MB with the same unequivocally brush as Trump is not accurate. Also very important he crushes Trump in the media every time he has an insult mocking his height on twitter. Others dance around the issue, criticize Trump's policies or demeanor. Bloomberg demeans him, denigrates him personally, his appearance, his intellect, beats him at his own game. He's leading or tied for the lead in quite a few Super tuesday states already as well and beats Trump in national polls. Not to mention Dirty Harry AKA Clint Eastwood just endorsed Bloomberg. Its a lock now
I think he would hold up in a debate really well with Trump, There wouldnt be any little Mike comments that go unchallenged and it would be a brutal counterpunch in the fat gut, far more entertaining than 2016.
The frog in the pot of boiling water is dead.
First Senator in American history to buck his party in an impeachment. It tells you all you want to know about the case for removal. He didn't make that decision lightly. He gives me just a glimmer of hope in our democracy. God Bless he and his family.