RiverDog wrote:Sorry, I can't get excited about this one, not because I don't think he's a good candidate, but I don't follow CFB closely enough to know anything about him other than he was the Huskies' OC.
RiverDog wrote:Sorry, I can't get excited about this one, not because I don't think he's a good candidate, but I don't follow CFB closely enough to know anything about him other than he was the Huskies' OC.
Aseahawkfan wrote:We know how Husky fans way overestimate players and coaches that are local.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Maybe he can do the job, but who knows. I'd prefer an NFL OC myself, but if John and Mike think a college guy is good, then I guess we roll with it.
curmudgeon wrote:Leslie Frazier hired as assistant head coach……
curmudgeon wrote:Leslie Frazier hired as assistant head coach……
curmudgeon wrote:Leslie Frazier hired as assistant head coach……
mykc14 wrote:That's a great hire. Getting a former head coach as his defensive coordinator is such a great idea. I really like this. Now let's get the right OC and this could be a grand slam!!
mykc14 wrote:That's a great hire. Getting a former head coach as his defensive coordinator is such a great idea. I really like this. Now let's get the right OC and this could be a grand slam!!
Agent 86 wrote:I actually think they specified that Frazier was strictly an assistant head coach, and not the DC. I believe a DC is still in the works?
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't really understand the Frazier hire. Not sure why he will be here. Seems like maybe a Pete behind the scenes hire. I guess we'll see how it works out, but I've never heard of these kind of "mentor" for a new young head coach situations work out other than theoretically. The head coach either knows what he's doing or he's got problems right out the gate. NFL is an unforgiving place and no tolerance for learning on the job as head coach. You either come in ready to roll or you're going to be hurting soon.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't really understand the Frazier hire. Not sure why he will be here. Seems like maybe a Pete behind the scenes hire. I guess we'll see how it works out, but I've never heard of these kind of "mentor" for a new young head coach situations work out other than theoretically. The head coach either knows what he's doing or he's got problems right out the gate. NFL is an unforgiving place and no tolerance for learning on the job as head coach. You either come in ready to roll or you're going to be hurting soon.
mykc14 wrote:Interesting.... I could see Frazier being a great asset. I do t agree with the idea that the "head coach either knows what he is doing or he's got problems." I think it's smart to hire a mentor for a young head coach. Get somebody on staff who has experience it all before!! It seems like he is leaning towards hiring young at th r OC position so defense is important!!!
RiverDog wrote:One of the things where I think Frazier will be of great value is in assembling a staff. Frazier has been around a long time and has a lot of contacts he's made over the course of several decades worth of being in the league. He knows who's going to fit Mac's vision of the team he wants to put together. He'll also be nice to have in the war room as they're deciding who to draft.
RiverDog wrote:One of the things where I think Frazier will be of great value is in assembling a staff. Frazier has been around a long time and has a lot of contacts he's made over the course of several decades worth of being in the league. He knows who's going to fit Mac's vision of the team he wants to put together. He'll also be nice to have in the war room as they're deciding who to draft.
Oly wrote:This was my thought exactly. Macdonald is so new that he doesn't have good contacts, and my only concern with the hire was assembling a staff. I don't think it's as easy as JS just giving Macdonald his Rolodex; coaches are tribal and want to work with people they know. I thought that they were hoping that by actually hiring Frazier instead of putting him in a ceremonial role, he'd be better able to reach out with people and tell them that they'd be working with him directly.
Stream Hawk wrote:He has a relationship with Mike. He chose Seattle over ~3 other teams. I think it’s a fine hire. There’s plenty more but there’s nothing wrong with hiring a well-respected defensive coach.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't see it. Frazier is a very strange hire. The man left Buffalo for some reason and was looking for a head coach position after taking a year off. Now he's going to be a subordinate to the youngest coach in the NFL? It's an odd hiring. I guess I'd have to know what kind of relationship he has with John because this seems strange.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't see it. Frazier is a very strange hire. The man left Buffalo for some reason and was looking for a head coach position after taking a year off. Now he's going to be a subordinate to the youngest coach in the NFL? It's an odd hiring. I guess I'd have to know what kind of relationship he has with John because this seems strange.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I really want a good D-line coach or former D-line as D-coordinator.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I really want a good D-line coach or former D-line as D-coordinator.
RiverDog wrote:With Macdonald and Frazier in the house, the D coordinator is less important than it would be otherwise. The biggest hire is going to be the offensive coordinator.
Agent 86 wrote:Here are the names I have heard about being in contention for each role:
OC:
Tanner Engstrand (Lions passing game coordinator)
Ryan Grubb (OC for Huskies/Bama)
DC:
Joe Cullen (Chiefs Defensive Line coach)
Cullen worked with Macdonald in Baltimore, he was the DL coach from 2016-20. He left Baltimore to be the DC for the Jaguars under Urban Meyer, so that flopped. He then got hired by the Chiefs. Apparently Michigan is also talking to him about their DC role, which he would obviously get to call the plays there whereas in Seattle he wouldn't, to start at least.
RiverDog wrote:With Macdonald and Frazier in the house, the D coordinator is less important than it would be otherwise. The biggest hire is going to be the offensive coordinator.
c_hawkbob wrote:IMO the LOB was about the players not the coaches. That group of players would have been great under almost any coaching staff.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't know about irrelevant but Aden Durde is an interesting hire as DC. D-line coach for the last 3 years, which not surprisingly addresses our greatest defensive weakness. And Macdonald obviously doesn't want him for his play calling skills (yet) so he can concentrate on fixing what's broke while he develops as a coordinator.
jshawaii22 wrote:Did we hire Grubb to draft Penix at 15? Seems a logical maybe, but maybe he would of taken "QB Coach" instead of OC.
My other thought is JS, with all those college hires, will try to get the Seahawks into the Big10 soon.l
On a serious note, I've seen 3 -4 articles from national sources that are giving us the #1 or #2 coach hire (Harbaugh is the other) -- with Quinn at 5 - 7, so you never know. I've give JS the benefit of the doubt for now, but we damn sure better bring in on of the top QB's in the draft.
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