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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:24 pm

WILSON TO LOCKETT.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:27 pm

Scarry, he has missed alot and st has been bad today.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:28 pm

GAME!!!!!
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby trents » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:34 pm

You had to like our chances in this scenario with money Russ at the helm. No one I'd rather have at the helm when the game is on the line. Only 152 yds. passing but big plays when it counted.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby trents » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:39 pm

Anthony wrote:Scarry, he has missed alot and st has been bad today.


Special teams gave up too many return yards and that has been a pattern this year it seems to me.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:43 pm

trents wrote:You had to like our chances in this scenario with money Russ at the helm. No one I'd rather have at the helm when the game is on the line. Only 152 yds. passing but big plays when it counted.


Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:45 pm

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Special teams gave up too many return yards and that has been a pattern this year it seems to me.



ST as a whole were bad today, to many yards, blocked FGs, little return yards.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby trents » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:57 pm

"Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters."

Good points, Anthony. Dropped passes are something the Hawk's receivers aren't often guilty of but today they were. Even Baldwin.

My biggest concern for our chances of advancing in the playoffs is being so dinged up.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:03 pm

trents wrote:"Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters."

Good points, Anthony. Dropped passes are something the Hawk's receivers aren't often guilty of but today they were. Even Baldwin.

My biggest concern for our chances of advancing in the playoffs is being so dinged up.


Yup especially on the oline.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby c_hawkbob » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:17 pm

Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.

Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby trents » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:30 pm

In the post game show Dave Wyman made a good point by saying that the Cardinals took a lot of risks today, pulled out all the stops since they had nothing to lose, and most of them worked in their favor. His logic was they looked better today than they probably should have.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:54 pm

So a few things, after relooking at some stuff. Oline really bad, but 2 guys starting who are not starters and 1 more out of possission. Recievers 4 drops took completion % from 78 down to 59. Qb rqting drom 108 to 77. Special teams were aweful, nor sure why.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:55 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.

Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!



I agree with this. Fluker might be my offensive MVP (after Russ and maybe Carson)!!! He’s made such a difference for us upfront. It’s crazy that he didn’t get the Pro Bowl nod over Sweezy. With that being said we need Sweezy back healthy too. Pocic is not the guy we want out there at any G position. It’s unfortunate that he has had such a rough go this year after a promising end to his rookie year.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:59 pm

Anthony wrote:So a few things, after relooking at some stuff. Oline really bad, but 2 guys starting who are not starters and 1 more out of possission. Recievers 4 drops took completion % from 78 down to 59. Qb rqting drom 108 to 77. Special teams were aweful, nor sure why.


These are the post that make people label you a RW defender. We don’t need to know what his stats WOULD have been, we all saw a few dropped passes by the WR and a few missed passes by RW. What would his QBR of been had he not missed a few passes? It works both ways. Bottom line is he needs to play better in the playoffs as do the receivers, OL, and ST. This was not a great game to play going into the playoffs, but your always happy with a win and ultimately this game means nothing going forward.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:33 pm

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These are the post that make people label you a RW defender. We don’t need to know what his stats WOULD have been, we all saw a few dropped passes by the WR and a few missed passes by RW. What would his QBR of been had he not missed a few passes? It works both ways. Bottom line is he needs to play better in the playoffs as do the receivers, OL, and ST. This was not a great game to play going into the playoffs, but your always happy with a win and ultimately this game means nothing going forward.


First you assume i care, i stated facts, i did not say he played well or not, you assumed i was defending him, that is on you. Fyi trying to equate a drop to a throw away to avoid a sack, yes 2 of his 4 non drop incompletions were throw aways, is lame.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby The POPE » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:50 pm

i see the internet/phone access has still not been shut off at the asylum.
Anthony, do you ever tire of talking to yourself?
Inquiring minds want to know.

pope out
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:23 pm

Anthony wrote:
First you assume i care.


I know you care because you get butthurt anytime anybody says that you are a RW apologists. Your reaction is proof that you care. Clearly you were trying to defend RW in some way- if not then praytell what was the purpose of those ‘facts’ that you gave us. RW would have had a better game had a few drops not occurred- no kidding what amazing facts. Here’s some more facts. If the OL blocked better RW would not have been sacked as much. Or here’s one- If RW would have completed all of his passes and the recievers broke every tackle and scored RW would have had a QBR of 158.3 and 21 TD’s...
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:50 am

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I know you care because you get butthurt anytime anybody says that you are a RW apologists. Your reaction is proof that you care. Clearly you were trying to defend RW in some way- if not then praytell what was the purpose of those ‘facts’ that you gave us. RW would have had a better game had a few drops not occurred- no kidding what amazing facts. Here’s some more facts. If the OL blocked better RW would not have been sacked as much. Or here’s one- If RW would have completed all of his passes and the recievers broke every tackle and scored RW would have had a QBR of 158.3 and 21 TD’s...



LOL yeah sorry, you really have no clue, I don't get butt hurt when they say I am an apologist, I get more of a laugh that some here, you apparently feel the need to turn anything I post into something about Wilson. Point in case 1 month ago I wrote about the oline playing well and guess what some here turned it about Wilson. Talked about the defense 3 weeks ago, was turned into about Wilson. Then some, like you try to take anything I say and make it into an apology about Wilson, even when I call him out for a bad play like a few weeks ago on that horribly weird int. I said it was a bad play, but some like you said I was apologizing because I did not say horrible I only sad bad. So your wrong but you know that or I would hope you do, but as they say, you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink. However, thank you for admitting I stated a fact. Funny how the only "apology" I made was for the oline, and yet you totally glossed over that, interesting. The facts I made were simple, the oline was bad, but that was due to injuries, injuries that we now know will not be an issue next week. Drops were a problem but normally are not so not worried about next week. ST well that still worries me because it seems we have been rather unremarkable outside of our punter. So in other words, we should be fine. When I reviewed the game these 3 things stood out, oline, drops, and ST. Guess what 2 of the 3 are not going to be an issue next week. I guess for you I should not point out any big issues unless they are Wilson otherwise you will turn it into something it was not. I mean it appears at least according to you I should not post at all since you will turn it into Wilson and me not being critical of him. However guess what if I feel like pointing out things that stood out to me good or bad I will, you don't like it don't read it, or better yet get off your high horse and read it for what it was 3 things that stood out to me and what they meant. What I also find interesting if several other pointed outs facts about the game that was as you b put it "no kidding" but you said nothing to them hmm. OH well its your issue not mine my post stands as the 3 things that stood out to me, oline, drops, and ST luckily 2 of the 3 should be fine. Oh and thanks for the laughs, you made my night.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:19 am

It’s a win. I think it’s good for Seattle that it was as hard as it was. Not sure why everyone jumps Anthony’s#it when he throws Wilson a bone. Dude got smashed all day, had uncharacteristic drops including Doug friggin Baldwin back to back, a pick reminiscent of SB 49 because Moore didn’t drive on the ball
and still dropped a perfect dime with the game on the line . He ain’t god but he’s a HOF bound winner Seahawks all time record holder and he’s our guy. Worse things than being a fan boy of someone like Russ. I wonder wtf is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby idhawkman » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:15 am

c_hawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.

Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!
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I agree with this. Fluker might be my offensive MVP (after Russ and maybe Carson)!!! He’s made such a difference for us upfront. It’s crazy that he didn’t get the Pro Bowl nod over Sweezy. With that being said we need Sweezy back healthy too. Pocic is not the guy we want out there at any G position. It’s unfortunate that he has had such a rough go this year after a promising end to his rookie year.


Agree with both of these posts with one input, What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:30 am

Chawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.

Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!


All true, and I'll add that we got out of the game without any major injuries.

Idahawkman wrote:What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.


I thought he was a little slow to adjust, too. Part of the problem is that the Cards, for the most part, bottled up our running attack. Had it not been for that big 70 yard run by Carson, we'd have barely broke 100 yards. As a consequence, we were only 4-14 on 3rd downs. Taking away our running game takes away a good part of our passing attack as well. This team has to run the ball if we are to be successful.

Pocic is a bust. I see no circumstance where he's on the roster next season.

mykc14 wrote:These are the post that make people label you (Anthony) a RW defender. We don’t need to know what his stats WOULD have been, we all saw a few dropped passes by the WR and a few missed passes by RW. What would his QBR of been had he not missed a few passes? It works both ways. Bottom line is he needs to play better in the playoffs....I know you care because you get butthurt anytime anybody says that you are a RW apologists.


Truth.

It's also true that Anthony is one of those guys that has to have the last word and as such, will continue an argument into infinity rather than simply walking away. That was the root cause of the giant pissing contest between him an Roach that irked several.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby c_hawkbob » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:31 am

Haven't watched the all 22 yet and as I don't have DTV anymore I watched the game at Buffalo WW but it was pretty clear to me that much of the problem (besides Russ not being as quick a foot as usual) was that their outside rush was doing a good job of maintaining lane responsibility while they were completely handing our guards their arses with their interior rush. Safety blitzes up the middle and stunts were killing us.

Ifedi has been worlds better this year at RT but moving him back inside wound up being a terrible solution to our starting guards being down. Please, for the love of all things Seahawk, leave him either at RT or on the bench!

We're not deep enough on the O-line right now to be effective losing both Fluker and Sweezy.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby idhawkman » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:38 am

c_hawkbob wrote:Haven't watched the all 22 yet and as I don't have DTV anymore I watched the game at Buffalo WW but it was pretty clear to me that much of the problem (besides Russ not being as quick a foot as usual) was that their outside rush was doing a good job of maintaining lane responsibility while they were completely handing our guards their arses with their interior rush. Safety blitzes up the middle and stunts were killing us.

Ifedi has been worlds better this year at RT but moving him back inside wound up being a terrible solution to our starting guards being down. Please, for the love of all things Seahawk, leave him either at RT or on the bench!

We're not deep enough on the O-line right now to be effective losing both Fluker and Sweezy.

I'm hoping that moving Ifedi inside of this game doesn't ruin him for the game against Lawrence next week. You are completely correct that we are not deep enough. I also think River is correct that Pocic is a complete bust - it was obvious on a couple plays that he totally missed the line call.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:06 am

Hawktawk wrote:Not sure why everyone jumps Anthony’s#it when he throws Wilson a bone. Dude got smashed all day, had uncharacteristic drops including Doug friggin Baldwin back to back, a pick reminiscent of SB 49 because Moore didn’t drive on the ball
and still dropped a perfect dime with the game on the line . He ain’t god but he’s a HOF bound winner Seahawks all time record holder and he’s our guy. Worse things than being a fan boy of someone like Russ. I wonder wtf is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here.



I don’t know of any member on this forum who doesn’t appreciate RW. There are obviously varying levels of this appreciation. If you were to look back on my history as a poster on this form you would see that I lean more on the side that typically defends him. If you want to know why people (not everyone) jump Anthony’s jock all the time it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. The above post that I responded to was a perfect example. Letting us know what RW’s QBR ‘would’ have been if not for the ‘drops.’ That’s not ‘throwing him a bone’ that’s a perfect example of an apologist. Throwing him a bone would be something like ‘yeah Russ got the crap kicked out of him today but was still able to make some throws to win it at the end. I agree that there are much worse things than being Wilson’s fanboy, but Anthony takes it to an extreme level. That combined with his condescending style and insistence on always having the last word rubs some posters the wrong way. I’m assuming the ‘WTF is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here’ is in reference to not recognizing RW’s greatness (as apposed to Anthony). If that’s the case then I agree with you we will certainly miss RW when he is gone. As for me, no way am I overlooking him. I’ve been saying RW is an elite QB for the past 4 years (or more).
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:23 am

c_hawkbob wrote:Haven't watched the all 22 yet and as I don't have DTV anymore I watched the game at Buffalo WW but it was pretty clear to me that much of the problem (besides Russ not being as quick a foot as usual) was that their outside rush was doing a good job of maintaining lane responsibility while they were completely handing our guards their arses with their interior rush. Safety blitzes up the middle and stunts were killing us.

Ifedi has been worlds better this year at RT but moving him back inside wound up being a terrible solution to our starting guards being down. Please, for the love of all things Seahawk, leave him either at RT or on the bench!

We're not deep enough on the O-line right now to be effective losing both Fluker and Sweezy.



Completely agree with this, but not many teams can lose their top 3 guards and still be effective. Simmons played really well in his backup role for us and we didn’t miss to much in the run game with him out, losing him really showed. The problem is what do you do if a G gets injured (Pocic has to play unless you try Hunt there) then if you are down two it gets bad. Hunt looked OK at C, do you try Britt there? Obviously they don’t think Fant can play inside. Like you said we do not have the depth. We just have to hope Sweezy and Flucker get healthy and stay healthy.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:29 am

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I don’t know of any member on this forum who doesn’t appreciate RW. There are obviously varying levels of this appreciation. If you were to look back on my history as a poster on this form you would see that I lean more on the side that typically defends him. If you want to know why people (not everyone) jump Anthony’s jock all the time it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. The above post that I responded to was a perfect example. Letting us know what RW’s QBR ‘would’ have been if not for the ‘drops.’ That’s not ‘throwing him a bone’ that’s a perfect example of an apologist. Throwing him a bone would be something like ‘yeah Russ got the crap kicked out of him today but was still able to make some throws to win it at the end. I agree that there are much worse things than being Wilson’s fanboy, but Anthony takes it to an extreme level. That combined with his condescending style and insistence on always having the last word rubs some posters the wrong way. I’m assuming the ‘WTF is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here’ is in reference to not recognizing RW’s greatness (as apposed to Anthony). If that’s the case then I agree with you we will certainly miss RW when he is gone. As for me, no way am I overlooking him. I’ve been saying RW is an elite QB for the past 4 years (or more).


All fair points. Not much to disagree with here.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:32 am

mykc14 wrote:We just have to hope Sweezy and Flucker get healthy and stay healthy.


Sorry, mykc, I fully realize that perhaps due to your being an educator that your spelling and grammar is top notch, but I had to laugh at your typo. "Meet the Fluckers!" :lol:
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:58 am

RiverDog wrote:
Sorry, mykc, I fully realize that perhaps due to your being an educator that your spelling and grammar is top notch, but I had to laugh at your typo. "Meet the Fluckers!" :lol:


That is a good one!
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby idhawkman » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:06 pm

I actually chuckled at the typo and then again after reading River and you comment about it.

REgarding your comment about losing 3 guards I think the problem was worse because we couldn't use the extra lineman (Fant) as the tackle and have Ifedi and whoever the RG would be as two guards. Vannett is a good TE but Fant way outshines him at blocking for run plays. We need one of the two guards to be healthy enough to go and not get hurt again.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:40 pm

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Agree with both of these posts with one input, What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.


Yup and most came really fast, was wondering why there did not appear to be an outlet pass. The other thing and I could be wrong but weren't most of the sacks 3rd and long and mostly after run, run plays on 1st adn 2nd?
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:48 pm

mykc14 wrote:

I don’t know of any member on this forum who doesn’t appreciate RW. There are obviously varying levels of this appreciation. If you were to look back on my history as a poster on this form you would see that I lean more on the side that typically defends him. If you want to know why people (not everyone) jump Anthony’s jock all the time it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. The above post that I responded to was a perfect example. Letting us know what RW’s QBR ‘would’ have been if not for the ‘drops.’ That’s not ‘throwing him a bone’ that’s a perfect example of an apologist. Throwing him a bone would be something like ‘yeah Russ got the crap kicked out of him today but was still able to make some throws to win it at the end. I agree that there are much worse things than being Wilson’s fanboy, but Anthony takes it to an extreme level. That combined with his condescending style and insistence on always having the last word rubs some posters the wrong way. I’m assuming the ‘WTF is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here’ is in reference to not recognizing RW’s greatness (as apposed to Anthony). If that’s the case then I agree with you we will certainly miss RW when he is gone. As for me, no way am I overlooking him. I’ve been saying RW is an elite QB for the past 4 years (or more).



" it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. " this is a lie as I stated already a few games back when he threw a horrible int I said bad play by Wilson and nothing else This is my problem with you and others like you, you exaggerate what I say to make your stance, or look for a way to twist what I say to support it. Nothing I wrote was not factual. Now as to why and how I write what I want I can every right to write what I want the way I want I you don't like it don't read it, but don't think you or anyone else is going to tell me how and what to write. I don't like some stuff you and others write and think it is garbage and not just about Wilson but other things, but I would never tell you, you should not write it that is your right. I may reply to it, and I may not waste my time, but unlike you, I will not say they should not write it or allude to it. You already admitted what I wrote was right, so not it is just you don't think I should have written it, tuff. You don't have a right to tell me what I can or cannot write.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:51 pm

RiverDog wrote:
Truth.

It's also true that Anthony is one of those guys that has to have the last word and as such, will continue an argument into infinity rather than simply walking away. That was the root cause of the giant pissing contest between him an Roach that irked several.


And here I thought we were in a good place, and instead you lie about me, I dont have to have the last word, in fact, I often just foe you if you were being an idiot. I just will not allow you or anyone to bully me or tell me what I can or cannot say, or lie about me. Yes the problem with ROch and I was all me, of course, it has to be, after all you all loved Roach, and he had been around a lot longer than me. Proves my point very well.

So we have a choice we can try to be civil and agree to disagree etc when we do, or you and anyone else can continue to try to tell me what and how I can post, or you can just don't read what I write.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:54 pm

idhawkman wrote:
Agree with both of these posts with one input, What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.


Anthony wrote:Yup and most came really fast, was wondering why there did not appear to be an outlet pass. The other thing and I could be wrong but weren't most of the sacks 3rd and long and mostly after run, run plays on 1st adn 2nd?


Well, you've been a critic of Shott's play calling all year long, mostly because it doesn't fit into your "Russell's the star and everyone else revolves around him" point of view. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd down is a way of life for us now, so you might as well get used to it because it's here to stay.

But even a broken clock is right twice a day as in this case, you do have a point about the 3rd down play calls. Schott did not react to what was obvious to just about everyone else in that the OL was outmatched and getting beat badly, but Russell didn't exactly help matters, either. The entire offense had issues, although even that paled in comparison to the special teams break downs.

Nevertheless, we still made plays when we had to and won the game.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:58 pm

trents wrote:"Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters."

Good points, Anthony. Dropped passes are something the Hawk's receivers aren't often guilty of but today they were. Even Baldwin.

My biggest concern for our chances of advancing in the playoffs is being so dinged up.



Yeah I agree especially on the oline. Dropped Passes is not the norm and probably will not happen like that again, ST well they have been MIA most of the year outside of our Punter. But the Oline issues this week, that was pure injury and being played out of position. According to what I have read they expect the normal Oline this week so we should be okay.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:21 pm

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Truth.

It's also true that Anthony is one of those guys that has to have the last word and as such, will continue an argument into infinity rather than simply walking away. That was the root cause of the giant pissing contest between him an Roach that irked several.


Anthony wrote:And here I thought we were in a good place, and instead you lie about me, I dont have to have the last word, in fact, I often just foe you if you were being an idiot. I just will not allow you or anyone to bully me or tell me what I can or cannot say, or lie about me. Yes the problem with ROch and I was all me, of course, it has to be, after all you all loved Roach, and he had been around a lot longer than me. Proves my point very well.

So we have a choice we can try to be civil and agree to disagree etc when we do, or you and anyone else can continue to try to tell me what and how I can post, or you can just don't read what I write.


Oh, for crissakes, Anthony! I'm not the only one that has ever accused you of having an obsession with Russell.

If Roach were here, he'd fall off his chair laughing if he heard you say that I "loved" him. I've called him out on several occasions, mainly because I didn't like his constant "roflmao" and :lol: :lol: that he used to punctuate his responses to other posters with, which I took to be very insulting. He didn't take too kindly to my criticism, but it seemed to have worked as he quit using them.

You and Roach both suffer from this "have to have the last word" disease, which exacerbates the conflict and causes things to escalate. Instead of walking away from a thread, the two of you would continue on and on with reply after reply until finally a couple of posters got tired of it and reported the behavior. Yoder was even handed in his request that both of you cease and desist. Problem is that Roach never takes criticism very well, and opted to take his marbles to another playground.

As far as my own behavior goes, it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black as I can't resist to take a swipe at you from time to time. Your obsession is so obvious that it's too tempting for me to resist, so for that I do apologise. But once again, I'm not the only one. If you simply turned the other cheek and let it go, you'd stop the lion's share of abuse that you've had to endure.

JMHO. Take it or leave it.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:38 pm

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Well, you've been a critic of Shott's play calling all year long, mostly because it doesn't fit into your "Russell's the star and everyone else revolves around him" point of view. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd down is a way of life for us now, so you might as well get used to it because it's here to stay.

But even a broken clock is right twice a day as in this case, you do have a point about the 3rd down play calls. Schott did not react to what was obvious to just about everyone else in that the OL was outmatched and getting beat badly, but Russell didn't exactly help matters, either. The entire offense had issues, although even that paled in comparison to the special teams break downs.

Nevertheless, we still made plays when we had to and won the game.



Wow another lie, please show me were every game were I questioned Schotty? I did not and in fact, several times said it was a great play call, and others bad. I call it as I see it, he can have good play calls and games where he is bad. Guess what that is what I should and can do as a fan. See you get on me for adding something that annoys people or in sites arguments and here you do it. But I guess its okay for you to do it just not me.

All that aside lets me make a few things clear

1. Schotty has good and bad days and games calling. As to the style we play, My only reason for not liking it is because it makes no sense to pay a Qb even 25 mil a year to play in this style. Its a waste of money. So save the money spend it someplace else and sign a guy at 18-20 mil. Of course, you will lose that IT factor that this team has shown it needs at Qb to make those miraculous plays, but is that worth 25+ mil a year. Guess what I would say the same if it was Rathesburger who I hate or the prima donna that is Rodgers, or Brady or anyone.

My opinion about Wilson is not the point here. I think Wilson is a top 5 QB. who like all top Qbs to include Rodgers, Brady or anyone makes mistakes, have bad games, and can improve. And I will point out when he or any player does good, does bad, or things around him are causing trouble. Same as I would and have done for other players. The only reason why it appears I do it more with Wilson is because there are a few of you who seem hell-bent on blaming him for everything. One of you blame him for every sack that happens even it happens in under 2 sec. Another has blamed him for dropped passes saying it was too hard, not hard enough, to much spin etc. The reality is most of you are overly critical of Wilson, and if you were that way for every player no worries but your not, for others there are excuses, but Wilson nope.

Some of you seem to think I am a Wilson fan over the Hawks which is not true, been a hawks fan since day 1, Unlike you guys though I see those 2 things being one and the same since as of Right now we are only going to go as far as Wilson can get us. So rooting for or as some of you say in an attempt to start a fight being a fanboy of Wilson is also being a fanboy of the hawks.

MY post that ...whatever his name is decided to use as an argument starting point was accurate, our oline was bad, but there was a reason, we had a lot of drops which impacted the Qb and the game, and ST was bad. Just like my post from a game or so ago about the bad int he threw, but yet some here still did not like it I should have used the word horrible instead of bad, Tough crap. Maybe instead of reading in and looking for a fight, you should just take it as is as some here have.

You guys have gotten so bad that unless I say he sucks every time you want to start something, that is on you, and for the sake of the board, I hope you grow up because I am not changing I will call it as I see it.


Now I will continue to post what I want, and if Wilson screws up I will say so, if he plays great I will say so if things happen that I think are relevant, like dropped passes, I will say so. IF the Defense does something good or bad I will say so, and the same with ST, and play calling.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:49 pm

[quote="Anthony] You don't have a right to tell me what I can or cannot write.[/quote]

Never once have I told you what you can or cannot write. If that’s what you got from my post then you might want to re-read it. What I was giving you was advice, of which you almost certainly will not heed. Like you said post what you want- it’s your prerogative, but like you said you have a problem with the way others respond to you so if that’s a problem to you take my advice. As for me I don’t mind the way you post- I actually find it funny, and I like how you always start the game threads and are almost always the only one posting on them. I almost always skim through them after the game.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:08 pm

mykc14 wrote:
Never once have I told you what you can or cannot write. If that’s what you got from my post then you might want to re-read it. What I was giving you was advice, of which you almost certainly will not heed. Like you said post what you want- it’s your prerogative, but like you said you have a problem with the way others respond to you so if that’s a problem to you take my advice. As for me I don’t mind the way you post- I actually find it funny, and I like how you always start the game threads and are almost always the only one posting on them. I almost always skim through them after the game.


Then were good. Cool.
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:17 pm

Anthony wrote:
Then were good. Cool.


Of Course we’re good! The Hawks are in the playoffs!!!! Have a great New Years!!
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Re: Hawks VS Cards

Postby Anthony » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:47 am

mykc14 wrote:
Of Course we’re good! The Hawks are in the playoffs!!!! Have a great New Years!!



You too!!
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