Anthony wrote:Scarry, he has missed alot and st has been bad today.
trents wrote:You had to like our chances in this scenario with money Russ at the helm. No one I'd rather have at the helm when the game is on the line. Only 152 yds. passing but big plays when it counted.
trents wrote:
Special teams gave up too many return yards and that has been a pattern this year it seems to me.
trents wrote:"Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters."
Good points, Anthony. Dropped passes are something the Hawk's receivers aren't often guilty of but today they were. Even Baldwin.
My biggest concern for our chances of advancing in the playoffs is being so dinged up.
c_hawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.
Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!
Anthony wrote:So a few things, after relooking at some stuff. Oline really bad, but 2 guys starting who are not starters and 1 more out of possission. Recievers 4 drops took completion % from 78 down to 59. Qb rqting drom 108 to 77. Special teams were aweful, nor sure why.
mykc14 wrote:
These are the post that make people label you a RW defender. We don’t need to know what his stats WOULD have been, we all saw a few dropped passes by the WR and a few missed passes by RW. What would his QBR of been had he not missed a few passes? It works both ways. Bottom line is he needs to play better in the playoffs as do the receivers, OL, and ST. This was not a great game to play going into the playoffs, but your always happy with a win and ultimately this game means nothing going forward.
Anthony wrote:
First you assume i care.
mykc14 wrote:
I know you care because you get butthurt anytime anybody says that you are a RW apologists. Your reaction is proof that you care. Clearly you were trying to defend RW in some way- if not then praytell what was the purpose of those ‘facts’ that you gave us. RW would have had a better game had a few drops not occurred- no kidding what amazing facts. Here’s some more facts. If the OL blocked better RW would not have been sacked as much. Or here’s one- If RW would have completed all of his passes and the recievers broke every tackle and scored RW would have had a QBR of 158.3 and 21 TD’s...
c_hawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.
Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!
mykc14 wrote:
I agree with this. Fluker might be my offensive MVP (after Russ and maybe Carson)!!! He’s made such a difference for us upfront. It’s crazy that he didn’t get the Pro Bowl nod over Sweezy. With that being said we need Sweezy back healthy too. Pocic is not the guy we want out there at any G position. It’s unfortunate that he has had such a rough go this year after a promising end to his rookie year.
Chawkbob wrote:Russ was off, the receivers were off, the defense was off, the O-line sucked (Fluker makes SO much difference to this line!) and that was easily the worst game of the year from our special teams ... but you know what? It makes no difference at all now because every one of the above named potential goats nutted up and did what they do when the game's on the line and won the game. That truly is all that matters.
Now on to Dallas for a game that matters!
Idahawkman wrote:What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.
mykc14 wrote:These are the post that make people label you (Anthony) a RW defender. We don’t need to know what his stats WOULD have been, we all saw a few dropped passes by the WR and a few missed passes by RW. What would his QBR of been had he not missed a few passes? It works both ways. Bottom line is he needs to play better in the playoffs....I know you care because you get butthurt anytime anybody says that you are a RW apologists.
c_hawkbob wrote:Haven't watched the all 22 yet and as I don't have DTV anymore I watched the game at Buffalo WW but it was pretty clear to me that much of the problem (besides Russ not being as quick a foot as usual) was that their outside rush was doing a good job of maintaining lane responsibility while they were completely handing our guards their arses with their interior rush. Safety blitzes up the middle and stunts were killing us.
Ifedi has been worlds better this year at RT but moving him back inside wound up being a terrible solution to our starting guards being down. Please, for the love of all things Seahawk, leave him either at RT or on the bench!
We're not deep enough on the O-line right now to be effective losing both Fluker and Sweezy.
Hawktawk wrote:Not sure why everyone jumps Anthony’s#it when he throws Wilson a bone. Dude got smashed all day, had uncharacteristic drops including Doug friggin Baldwin back to back, a pick reminiscent of SB 49 because Moore didn’t drive on the ball
and still dropped a perfect dime with the game on the line . He ain’t god but he’s a HOF bound winner Seahawks all time record holder and he’s our guy. Worse things than being a fan boy of someone like Russ. I wonder wtf is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here.
c_hawkbob wrote:Haven't watched the all 22 yet and as I don't have DTV anymore I watched the game at Buffalo WW but it was pretty clear to me that much of the problem (besides Russ not being as quick a foot as usual) was that their outside rush was doing a good job of maintaining lane responsibility while they were completely handing our guards their arses with their interior rush. Safety blitzes up the middle and stunts were killing us.
Ifedi has been worlds better this year at RT but moving him back inside wound up being a terrible solution to our starting guards being down. Please, for the love of all things Seahawk, leave him either at RT or on the bench!
We're not deep enough on the O-line right now to be effective losing both Fluker and Sweezy.
mykc14 wrote:
I don’t know of any member on this forum who doesn’t appreciate RW. There are obviously varying levels of this appreciation. If you were to look back on my history as a poster on this form you would see that I lean more on the side that typically defends him. If you want to know why people (not everyone) jump Anthony’s jock all the time it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. The above post that I responded to was a perfect example. Letting us know what RW’s QBR ‘would’ have been if not for the ‘drops.’ That’s not ‘throwing him a bone’ that’s a perfect example of an apologist. Throwing him a bone would be something like ‘yeah Russ got the crap kicked out of him today but was still able to make some throws to win it at the end. I agree that there are much worse things than being Wilson’s fanboy, but Anthony takes it to an extreme level. That combined with his condescending style and insistence on always having the last word rubs some posters the wrong way. I’m assuming the ‘WTF is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here’ is in reference to not recognizing RW’s greatness (as apposed to Anthony). If that’s the case then I agree with you we will certainly miss RW when he is gone. As for me, no way am I overlooking him. I’ve been saying RW is an elite QB for the past 4 years (or more).
mykc14 wrote:We just have to hope Sweezy and Flucker get healthy and stay healthy.
RiverDog wrote:
Sorry, mykc, I fully realize that perhaps due to your being an educator that your spelling and grammar is top notch, but I had to laugh at your typo. "Meet the Fluckers!"
idhawkman wrote:
Agree with both of these posts with one input, What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.
mykc14 wrote:
I don’t know of any member on this forum who doesn’t appreciate RW. There are obviously varying levels of this appreciation. If you were to look back on my history as a poster on this form you would see that I lean more on the side that typically defends him. If you want to know why people (not everyone) jump Anthony’s jock all the time it’s because he doesn’t just ‘throw Wilson a bone’ he throws him the whole dang Turkey all the time. The above post that I responded to was a perfect example. Letting us know what RW’s QBR ‘would’ have been if not for the ‘drops.’ That’s not ‘throwing him a bone’ that’s a perfect example of an apologist. Throwing him a bone would be something like ‘yeah Russ got the crap kicked out of him today but was still able to make some throws to win it at the end. I agree that there are much worse things than being Wilson’s fanboy, but Anthony takes it to an extreme level. That combined with his condescending style and insistence on always having the last word rubs some posters the wrong way. I’m assuming the ‘WTF is wrong with some of you spoiled brats in here’ is in reference to not recognizing RW’s greatness (as apposed to Anthony). If that’s the case then I agree with you we will certainly miss RW when he is gone. As for me, no way am I overlooking him. I’ve been saying RW is an elite QB for the past 4 years (or more).
RiverDog wrote:
Truth.
It's also true that Anthony is one of those guys that has to have the last word and as such, will continue an argument into infinity rather than simply walking away. That was the root cause of the giant pissing contest between him an Roach that irked several.
idhawkman wrote:
Agree with both of these posts with one input, What the heck was Schotty thinking on 3rd downs? I think the first 5 sacks of Wilson came on 3rd down passing plays where he was stationary in the pocket. Schotty should have moved the pocket a few times to slow that rush down. Hopefully he was playing it safe and not trying to show Dallas anything but if he does this next week, Dallas will sack RW a ton of times.
Anthony wrote:Yup and most came really fast, was wondering why there did not appear to be an outlet pass. The other thing and I could be wrong but weren't most of the sacks 3rd and long and mostly after run, run plays on 1st adn 2nd?
trents wrote:"Yup and he lost about 50 on dropped passes, and an oline with 3 people that were either out of possission or non starters."
Good points, Anthony. Dropped passes are something the Hawk's receivers aren't often guilty of but today they were. Even Baldwin.
My biggest concern for our chances of advancing in the playoffs is being so dinged up.
RiverDog wrote:
Truth.
It's also true that Anthony is one of those guys that has to have the last word and as such, will continue an argument into infinity rather than simply walking away. That was the root cause of the giant pissing contest between him an Roach that irked several.
Anthony wrote:And here I thought we were in a good place, and instead you lie about me, I dont have to have the last word, in fact, I often just foe you if you were being an idiot. I just will not allow you or anyone to bully me or tell me what I can or cannot say, or lie about me. Yes the problem with ROch and I was all me, of course, it has to be, after all you all loved Roach, and he had been around a lot longer than me. Proves my point very well.
So we have a choice we can try to be civil and agree to disagree etc when we do, or you and anyone else can continue to try to tell me what and how I can post, or you can just don't read what I write.
RiverDog wrote:
Well, you've been a critic of Shott's play calling all year long, mostly because it doesn't fit into your "Russell's the star and everyone else revolves around him" point of view. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd down is a way of life for us now, so you might as well get used to it because it's here to stay.
But even a broken clock is right twice a day as in this case, you do have a point about the 3rd down play calls. Schott did not react to what was obvious to just about everyone else in that the OL was outmatched and getting beat badly, but Russell didn't exactly help matters, either. The entire offense had issues, although even that paled in comparison to the special teams break downs.
Nevertheless, we still made plays when we had to and won the game.
mykc14 wrote:
Never once have I told you what you can or cannot write. If that’s what you got from my post then you might want to re-read it. What I was giving you was advice, of which you almost certainly will not heed. Like you said post what you want- it’s your prerogative, but like you said you have a problem with the way others respond to you so if that’s a problem to you take my advice. As for me I don’t mind the way you post- I actually find it funny, and I like how you always start the game threads and are almost always the only one posting on them. I almost always skim through them after the game.
Anthony wrote:
Then were good. Cool.
mykc14 wrote:
Of Course we’re good! The Hawks are in the playoffs!!!! Have a great New Years!!
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