RiverDog wrote:So long as you eventually get the vaccination (on the assumption that it's proven to be safe), I don't have a problem with your position and even admire it to some degree. But I would consider those with whom you come in contact with. This isn't just about you, it's about your friends and family.
First, the liability issues of forcing people to take a vaccine is beyond what I think most corporations will take on. If this vaccine harms people any corporation with a requirement to take it will absorb that liability which would open them to millions of dollars in damages. So for business reasons, I highly doubt employers will require such a thing taking on that liability.
No. You cannot force people to take a vaccine. Past flu pandemics have been bad and it did not lead to flu vaccine requirements. Fining people for not wearing a seat belt is far different than forcing someone to inject a substance into their body. I will make you a gentleman's bet right now no one will be able to force someone to inject something into their body, even employers. If it is done, it will launch a Constitutional battle you will not believe including violent resistance. You think the country is divided now, you try to make people take a vaccine. It would be the single stupidest thing the government has done in this whole mess if they attempt it. And it will only worsen the situation when you have more positive and productive ways to get people to take a vaccine.
This isn't a take the vaccine once and you're done. This isn't even necessarily a yearly vaccine. Initial estimates from what I understand is you will be taking this vaccine every 6 to 8 months depending on mutations. Hard to believe you would support such a law, but I definitely won't. I will defy it on principle as no government should ever be able to force someone to inject something into their body on a continuous basis. That is a line I do not want crossed by our government.
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And after that tirade I will tell you how it will actually go. The government and private corporations will support a marketing blitz with the vaccine. This will include positive data and supporting anecdotes that the vaccine is effective and improving lives. They will first provide it for high risk populations and healthcare workers. Once they have done this they will continue to monitor the case load. If the case load drops substantially enough once this is done, then they will leave it alone. If it does not, then they will market it further to younger populations producing more of the vaccine. Once again they will monitor the case load. If it is under control, then they will leave it.
The vaccine is not 100% effective and the length of immunity is unknown. Herd immunity as it is called will be a combination of natural immunity already inherent in the population combined with vaccine boosted immunity to lower the risk and case load to a level similar to the flu. The ideal is to completely defeat it, but the likely outcome is a reduction of problems to flu levels with hopefully a yearly to bi-yearly vaccine for at risk populations that will reduce it to a manageable level.
There will be no need for a Draconian approach for the coronavirus vaccine. No idea why you think the starting point should be there given the younger population is not experiencing a high mortality rate and once you vaccinate your vulnerable population natural immunity will further leave the virus no way to go. The vaccine activates your immune system to defeat the virus preparing it in advance.
Vaccine definition: a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular diseaseIt will be unnecessary to require the vaccine. You are over-reacting at the moment, which is understandable. Don't worry, many people will be just like you and rush to get the vaccine, especially if they are at risk. You will find this will reduce the virus to highly manageable if not negligible levels. The government will not need to resort to nuttiness and worsen this situation.
As far as you and the missus personally, the way a vaccine works is both you and your wife should be immune the virus even if you come into contact with someone else with the virus if the vaccine is as effective as they claim it is. If this vaccine works and it seems to work very well, then you will see a huge drop in case without the need to require it. That is just how vaccines work combined with natural immunity. So you won't have to hire vaccine police to force people to inject a vaccine into their system with
hawktawk denying dying Americans from care because they didn't take the vaccine. You guys are starting to get crazy too.
I hope this vaccine works as well as it lists and there no mutations. We don't need more division as people start choosing sides over this vaccine. I'm glad Biden will be the one administering it as Trump would probably refuse it and act like an ass encouraging his followers to do the same. Whereas Biden will take it and be patient with a strong marketing campaign and close monitoring of case loads once it is administered.