Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

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What Grade do you Give the Coaching Staff for the Chargers Game?

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Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby savvyman » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:23 pm

I made my feelings clear ad nausea on the game thread - from the 2nd quarter on -- that the Seahawk's coaching staff was getting schooled by the Chargers coaching staff.

What is your grade for this game?
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:23 pm

Went with a c-, can't coach cramps, 120 degree temps and dehydration, that said, you certainly CAN coach covering a godd@#n F#%#ing RB or TE. The effort was poor from top to bottom, haven't seen this defense look outclassed in a long, long,long time, and each and every player and coach better look in the mirror and tell themselves to stop believing the stupid hype, or it's going to be a long season. Receivers running free at all times, LB's that could chase down a three legged turtle, blown assignments, making Rivers look like the second coming of Joe Montana, and Gates like the greatest TE to ever play the game. Honestly this is the first game in three years that I can't say I was impressed with ANY player on the team, none.

That is by FAR the worst performance by the LOB,and the absolute worst game I have ever seen Sherman, ET or Kam play alone, much less combined.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby savvyman » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:53 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Went with a c-, can't coach cramps, 120 degree temps and dehydration, that said, you certainly CAN coach covering a godd@#n F#%#ing RB or TE. The effort was poor from top to bottom, haven't seen this defense look outclassed in a long, long,long time, and each and every player and coach better look in the mirror and tell themselves to stop believing the stupid hype, or it's going to be a long season. Receivers running free at all times, LB's that could chase down a three legged turtle, blown assignments, making Rivers look like the second coming of Joe Montana, and Gates like the greatest TE to ever play the game. Honestly this is the first game in three years that I can't say I was impressed with ANY player on the team, none.

That is by FAR the worst performance by the LOB,and the absolute worst game I have ever seen Sherman, ET or Kam play alone, much less combined.


This is the harshest I think I have ever seen you in criticizing the Seahawks players or coaches. Usually you will come to their defense when someone singles a player or coach out for criticism.

I think Russell played well and Marshawn ran well in the few opportunities he had. Michael Bennett rushed hard all day and made a couple very nice run stops.

If I had to single out any one person to blame for this loss it is on Dan Quinn - he got his ass handed to him today by the San Diego Offensive Coordinator. His failure to adjust to San Diego's early success and poor play calling were the primary factors in today's loss.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby obiken » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:50 pm

I am the B-, I think the fumble and the penalties killed us. Rivers, was unreal today.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby burrrton » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:58 pm

obiken wrote:I am the B-, I think the fumble and the penalties killed us. Rivers, was unreal today.


Rivers was good, but there was very little pressure on him.

Hard for me to even point out a specific failing- we just looked overmatched in most areas for the first time in a while.

I guess we'll see if it's an emerging pattern or just a one-off.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby depaashaas » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:08 pm

An F- from me as I just read on Seahawks.com that Thomas, Chancellor and Maxwell all got an IV after having cramps from dehydration. Sloppy, very, very sloppy. I would have given less but F- was lowest given option
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Savy,
Probably, and that isn't going to change regarding this game. I'm not talking about a play here and there, but consistent performance, I understand the heat, but that doesn't absolve a lot of that stuff. The defence was torn up. The offense could have helped, but didn't, the defense could have got themselves off the field on third down too many times to count, but didn't. There were multiple opportunities, missed, overall this is the worst performance I've seen by a Carroll coached team since the Steelers in Pittsburgh his first season.

I'm not writing them off by any means, but I'm also not going to make excuses for them. Each one of them, need to stop reading their press clippings, and get back to work. Top to bottom that was a poor showing. I felt nervous about this game coming into it honestly, as they continue to show that long layoffs are detrimental to their performances ( ala the Rams MNF game last season that they were lucky to win) the fact that they were within sniffing distance at the end shows the talent they have, but having talent isn't enough, and you, me, and more importantly they know it.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby Zorn76 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:02 pm

Sometimes you gotta just tip your hat to the opponent, and that's what I did today to the Chargers.

From start to finish, they executed a good gameplan offensively, and did just enough on D to prevent us from engineering what would have been an amazing comeback.

We just got beat.

Defensively, yea, it was frustrating to watch. But SD took the challenge on and won.

I was happy to see that there was absolutely no quit in this team. You'd expect as much from World Champs, but today reminded me that our team Never gives up.

This game could've been a much bigger loss than it was when you think about it.

We'll regroup.

Silver lining: It was a road loss to an AFC team.

Meanwhile, the 49ers completely Choked a game that they had in hand to christen their new stadium digs.

It's easy to be disappointed, but we're gonna be fine in the long run.

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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby jshawaii22 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:18 pm

it' a disappointing loss, to be sure, but I can't see blaming the coaching staff at an F or D or even low C. I give them 'C' - They were an average team today from the Northwest, playing in 120 degree and humid heat. Not exactly what they are used to, but not an excuse, to be sure. Without a doubt it effected the D. How much, we can only speculate.

They didn't coach Percy to fumble. They didn't coach that moron Bruce Irvin to push the QB out of bounds to extend a drive AFTER the D finally got an out.
You can't coach against an All-Pro Tight-End, doing all-pro things in the game. It happens.

We also found out to today about the 'new' DB rules and how they will affect us. I don't think the coaches. They have done a good job to minimize the effect, but it will cause us to have days like this. You can't cover as tight as before.

We simply looked like a mortal, human team today. We'll come back next week.

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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby monkey » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:22 am

We were horribly out coached that game! The Chargers offensive game plan was absolutely brilliant, while the Seahawks defense was a step behind all game long. Too slow to make adjustments, and when they did, the Chargers found new ways to eat up the defense.
Offensively, there's simply no way that Lynch should have run the ball as few times as he did, when we were getting KILLED in T.O.P. I realize we didn't have the ball much, but when we did, we were mostly throwing, and or trying to do our quick strike/gimmicky stuff...where's the Beast Mode?

In Seattle, none of what the Chargers did would have been enough to beat us, the Chargers game plan wouldn't have been enough to beat a better Seahawks team; but what the Chargers coaching staff did was put together a game plan that PERFECTLY took advantage of the heat and the home field advantage, from making us wear the dark jerseys to the way they used Gates and Woodhead in the passing game, and the way they used their defensive line to create pressure on Wilson. Brilliantly planned, brilliantly executed.

Chargers coaching staff gets an A for an impressive game plan on both sides of the ball, while our own staff, who had 10 days to game plan?
Big, fat F!
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby savvyman » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:57 am

monkey wrote:We were horribly out coached that game! The Chargers offensive game plan was absolutely brilliant, while the Seahawks defense was a step behind all game long. Too slow to make adjustments, and when they did, the Chargers found new ways to eat up the defense.
Offensively, there's simply no way that Lynch should have run the ball as few times as he did, when we were getting KILLED in T.O.P. I realize we didn't have the ball much, but when we did, we were mostly throwing, and or trying to do our quick strike/gimmicky stuff...where's the Beast Mode?

In Seattle, none of what the Chargers did would have been enough to beat us, the Chargers game plan wouldn't have been enough to beat a better Seahawks team; but what the Chargers coaching staff did was put together a game plan that PERFECTLY took advantage of the heat and the home field advantage, from making us wear the dark jerseys to the way they used Gates and Woodhead in the passing game, and the way they used their defensive line to create pressure on Wilson. Brilliantly planned, brilliantly executed.

Chargers coaching staff gets an A for an impressive game plan on both sides of the ball, while our own staff, who had 10 days to game plan?
Big, fat F!



Agreed with everything you said. I saw a seahawk team that was out there competing the whole game. Michael Bennett was a monster. Kam, Earl and Maxwell all played themselves so ragged that they needed an intra-game IV to continue. The team competed on both sides of the ball all game and the Defense should be congratulated for holding the chargers late in the 4th quarter which gave us an opportunity to get the ball back with 3 minutes to go.

Let's not kid ourselves - the heat did not cause us to lose nor was the effort by the players the cause of the loss - Plain and simple as you so eloquently put it the Coaching staff - In particular Dan Quinn - got his ass handed to him by the Chargers offensive coordinator.

Bevell should have called up a couple screen passes to make the chargers pay for their constant blitzing. The only thing close to a screen pass all game long was the swing pass to Marshawn Lynch in the backfield and he took that throw for a 14 yard touchdown - there was literally no one within 10 yards of Lynch on that play.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby burrrton » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:14 am

The team competed on both sides of the ball all game and the Defense should be congratulated for holding the chargers late in the 4th quarter which gave us an opportunity to get the ball back with 3 minutes to go.


Yeah, the D stepped up at a couple points, but looking back on the game, it's pretty tough to see past the outrageous TOP deficit. The defense simply could not get off the damn field.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby HumanCockroach » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:57 am

I was shocked with their refusal to use more swing passes. They also had a huge gain on a swing pass to Turbin on the drive before the half. There was a ton of yards available on screens and swing passes. There was also tons of yards available for Wilson had he kept the ball in several situations. They had their opportunities, and for whatever reason missed them.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:30 pm

F
You lose its an F. Horrible play calling for the most part. Leaving Lynch sitting on the bench when he was averaging well over 5 YPC in his few opportunities. Defense completely confused virtually the whole game and then running their mouths and taking cheap shots on top of it. Carroll needed to tell them to STFU, save their energy and play yesterday.

It reminded me of Holmgren. 1 and only 1 plan of attack for each game and when it (usually) was the right one it was cool but when it was wrong he was too bull headed to admit it. Carroll is usually better at in game adjustments. Seemed to me he kept putting it on his defense even though they were clearly over matched yesterday. I'm just a fat guy drinking a Colorado Cool aid sitting on the couch and I knew they needed to go on 4th down and 2 as well. Much rather have had a 4th and 2 from the 40 than 4th and 12 from the 10 a couple of minutes later.

Bad bad bad.
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Re: Grade for Seahawks Coaching Staff for Chargers Game

Postby c_hawkbob » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:45 pm

D, we lost. Can't be average or above average with a loss. But nothing drastic happened. Things could been worse, so you gotta leave a grade for when things do go worse ... F is when things fall apart to the point it puts you in a bad spot going forward, that didn't happen. We weren't going undefeated anyway, relax.
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