1-1 is a disaster.....

[curmudgeon]

[Hawk Sista]

Thank you for that. This post jolted me out of my sulk.... Congrats for beating me to the punch.

[burrrton]

Want to snap back into your sulk? We're probably going to be tied with STL for last place in the NFCW after tonight.

[Uppercut]

Niners already looking fierce tonite, blocked punt and Crabtree TD ugh

[obiken]

Its time to realize 3 things. 1. Losing Red Bryant was huge, bigger that most people on this board and the FO thought. SD ran all over us, what are 9ers going to do?? 2. We are in a must win next week against Manning who very seldom loses in the RS. 3. We were probably not going to repeat anyway.
Is this a doom post? NO, but IF we loose next week, yeah.

[mykc14]

Its time to realize 3 things. 1. Losing Red Bryant was huge, bigger that most people on this board and the FO thought. SD ran all over us, what are 9ers going to do?? 2. We are in a must win next week against Manning who very seldom loses in the RS. 3. We were probably not going to repeat anyway.
Is this a doom post? NO, but IF we loose next week, yeah.

Step off the ledge! We just played poorly against a play off team on the road. It happens. This has very little impact on whether or not we will repeat.

[obiken]

I am not stepping ledge yet but I see a pattern and I really hope I am wrong. The Bronco game is a must win. My Brother says: "Poor Broncos!!"

[mykc14]

I am not stepping ledge yet but I see a pattern and I really hope I am wrong. The Bronco game is a must win. My Brother says: "Poor Broncos!!"

Pre-season I saw some tough road games on our schedule in this order: niners, Bolts, Tards, and Panthers. SD is a very good, playoff caliber team. We played bad, Rivers made some amazing throws with pressure in his face, we lost TO battle, and we still had the ball with 2 min left and a chance to win. We didn't get it done but we are not in must win mode, not yet.

[obiken]

Well the Niners losing tonight really helped. The problem is they always play up or down to the level of their competition. I don't get this loss by them. Stupid.

[depaashaas]

:o

1-1 is not, the way we got to 1-1 in my opinion could be, I know it was warm and I work in a greenhouse and I know how 110'F can just kill you. The chargers how ever had to play in that same 110'F to, it didn't seen to bother them to much. It was just a pity full performance from the defensive side. Anyone missing Big Red and Clemmons yet? chargers looked like a much better team than I gave them credit for, missed the pressure on philips how ever

1,2,3 WHAT'S NEXT?..Better be a W

[obiken]

That's what I said was Red, I think we should have paid him more dough and told Shermy here's what we can pay you too bad so sad. I don't know its never good to reflect right after a win, loss, or a bad draft day!! Especially ME!!

[burrrton]

The chargers how ever had to play in that same 110'F to, it didn't seen to bother them to much.

I'm not excusing the performance on it *at all*, but if you've worked in that kind of heat, you know good and well that acclimation is not imagined.

It's something you have to deal with in the NFL, though.

[Oly]

Defending against elite TEs has been the Achilles heel of this team for a long, long time (KJ eliminating Jimmy Graham has been the exception more than the rule). The pass rush gave Rivers just enough time to get the ball to Gates, who was a beast out there. Without Gates, the Hawks win, but I gotta tip my hat to him. He had a helluva game and put his team on his shoulders.

As others said, it happens, and there was little in the game to make me think that this game is the harbinger of things to come. Not every team has a Gates, the LOB is bound to rebound, and the coaches will find a way to scheme better for players like Gates.

[HumanCockroach]

I hope no one is thinking Julius Thomas is an aging hobbled TE, at least amongst the Seattle coaching staff. If Gates was handful, Thomas is a stadium full of hands. The biggest Issue I saw, was the horrid pass coverage by everyone, but specifically the Lb's who were more often than not nowhere to be found in coverage. Not that the DB's played well, as they looked horrid as a whole as well, but those LBs were awful today, absolutely awful.

[BelizeHawk]

Its the NFL baby! We played like crap and still stayed within striking distance of a playoff team whose QB was on fire.
There are already only two teams at 2-0, the Cards and the Panthers (and the eagles if they win tomorrow). The Aints are 0-2, Buffalo is 2-0.
It is what it is.

[Zorn76]

We got beat today, pure and simple.

SF takes the cake for embarrassment, if you want to go that route.

[mykc14]

That's what I said was Red, I think we should have paid him more dough and told Shermy here's what we can pay you too bad so sad. I don't know its never good to reflect right after a win, loss, or a bad draft day!! Especially ME!!

Obi, I would say you are making way too much out of this. It was a bad game. It was also smart to let Red walk, he was losing snaps last year and this game wasn't about the Chargers running all over the Hawks. It was about them being able to do exactly what we challenge every team to do. Dink and Dunk your way down the field and eventually you will make a mistake. The major problem was that when they made the mistakes (fumbles) we weren't able to fall on them and they kept making those plays. Two of River's TD passes were things of beauty with pressure in his face. Tip the cap and move on to next week. We are going to be ok. I have to also add, although I don't think it is going to happen, losing next week also won't be the end of the world. I don't have to tell you how good Manning and the Broncos are. We are not near a must win game yet.

[Anthony]

Well the Niners losing tonight really helped. The problem is they always play up or down to the level of their competition. I don't get this loss by them. Stupid.

Its simple their QB lost them the game, our QB did not.

[RiverDog]

I was a little leery of this one and figured our defense would have a tough time against an underrated veteran quarterback playing at home and subject to the hot, mid day southern California sun. But I thought we'd give up points on big plays and not sustained, clock eating drives. The Chargers didn't punt until the 4th quarter. This one is almost exclusively on the defense.

But on the bright side, the Niners looked worse than we did. The Saints lost to the Browns. Half our division is playing without their starting quarterback, and only two teams in the NFC, with one to play tonight, have won their first two games. It was a non conference game and won't count against us in a tiebreaker. This is a bump in the road, not a runaway train.

BTW, not that it's an excuse, but didn't the league try to avoid scheduling afternoon games in Phoenix in September years ago prior to the Cards moving to a domed stadium? And that was before they had an additional night game in the form of Thursday Night Football they could use to avoid those conditions.

[monkey]

Its time to realize 3 things. 1. Losing Red Bryant was huge, bigger that most people on this board and the FO thought. SD ran all over us, what are 9ers going to do?? 2. We are in a must win next week against Manning who very seldom loses in the RS. 3. We were probably not going to repeat anyway.
Is this a doom post? NO, but IF we loose next week, yeah.

Wow...I disagree completely with all three points you make.
1. Losing Red was NOT huge, because SD did NOT run all over us, they had a VERY tough time running the ball...it was the Chargers passing game mostly against the linebackers that killed us. The Chargers just took what we gave them, throwing to Gates and Woodhead against our linebackers, and it kept drives alive and our offense off the field. That has nothing to do with Red....
2. It's way too soon to call any game a must-win.
3. We still are probably going to repeat.

[Hawk Sista]

San Diego moved the ball just like Denver did in the Super bowl against us. But we forced more turnovers, capitalized on theo mistakes, and didn't make any of those ourselves. The D concedes the underneath stuff and out physicals the other team. It didn't work out that way. Phillip is VERY good, it was 120 on the field (very, very unusual for even SD where it's always 75) and the team looked gassed and frustrated.
Neither team stayed w/the run... I wondered why. I really thought, offensively, we were trying to get too cute. If have loved to see more Marshawn. He played well when he played. Something was up w/ that.

We lost a close one - away - to a playoff team... There are some bright spots. RW played well. It's just not the end of the world.

[HumanCockroach]

SMH. Obi.

[NorthHawk]

If we missed anyone from last years Defensive line, I think it was Clinton McDonald who seemed to get a lot of pressure up the middle when we needed it as well as being a good run defender.

[Seahawks4Ever]

1-1 a disaster?? Sea Vs. Den. a must win?? I know it was a tough loss, any game that was winnable at the end and you don't is a tough loss. But, that's the rub, we were in it at the end with a chance to win. Heck, I was even worried about leaving too much time on the clock for Rivers to get his team in game winning FG position.

Phillip Rivers is the best QB playing who hasn't yet won a Super Bowl. He is in my mind better the Rothlisbooger and way better than Eli Manning. It makes you wonder if the N.Y.G. should have kept Rivers when they drafted him.

It certainly helps that the 49ners. and the Cardinals have a loss to salve yesterdays debacle. Our team has always learned from painful mistakes and I am confident they will learn from this one.

Who know? Maybe we witnessed a preview of the Super Bowl?? Who knows? Maybe Rivers won 't be the best QB not to hoist a Lombardi?

[NorthHawk]

1-1 a disaster?? Sea Vs. Den. a must win?? I know it was a tough loss, any game that was winnable at the end and you don't is a tough loss. But, that's the rub, we were in it at the end with a chance to win. Heck, I was even worried about leaving too much time on the clock for Rivers to get his team in game winning FG position.

Phillip Rivers is the best QB playing who hasn't yet won a Super Bowl. He is in my mind better the Rothlisbooger and way better than Eli Manning. It makes you wonder if the N.Y.G. should have kept Rivers when they drafted him.

It certainly helps that the 49ners. and the Cardinals have a loss to salve yesterdays debacle. Our team has always learned from painful mistakes and I am confident they will learn from this one.

Who know? Maybe we witnessed a preview of the Super Bowl?? Who knows? Maybe Rivers won 't be the best QB not to hoist a Lombardi?

The Cards are 2-0, we are tied for last place with the 9ers and Rams (from a record perspective).

[HumanCockroach]

If we missed anyone from last years Defensive line, I think it was Clinton McDonald who seemed to get a lot of pressure up the middle when we needed it as well as being a good run defender.

This was "the" guy I lamented losing during the off season,not Red or Clem, but McDonald. Consistent pressure on the inside makes the outside rush that much more effective, and certainly an area I haven't seenexcellent in either game.l

[HumanCockroach]

Arizona is doing it with smoke and mirrors right now, it will catch up to them sooner rather than later. BANK on it.

[c_hawkbob]

Hey, we're gonna be everybody's game of the year, get used to getting the very best each team has to offer. We Didn't play that badly except for a few plays, and that's gonna be the case every game. But if we are just a little bit off against a quality opponent, expect them to be up to the task.

The difference in this game was Rivers and Gates, who both had outstanding games. Kudos to them much more than pity for ourselves. 9 times outa 10 when Mebane gets his hand on the ball while the QB is in the pocket it's a sack/fumble, but this time Rivers muscled through it and threw a perfect ball to Gates who made a super human catch for the TD. It's gonna happen once in a blue moon if the opponent steps up to the task.

The Chargers stepped up on a tough day for us. All credit to them.

But I sure ain't worried about us.

[Long Time Fan]

The Chargers stepped up on a tough day for us. All credit to them.

But I sure ain't worried about us.

What he said.

[Hawk Sista]

1-1 a disaster?? Sea Vs. Den. a must win?? I know it was a tough loss, any game that was winnable at the end and you don't is a tough loss. But, that's the rub, we were in it at the end with a chance to win. Heck, I was even worried about leaving too much time on the clock for Rivers to get his team in game winning FG position.

Phillip Rivers is the best QB playing who hasn't yet won a Super Bowl. He is in my mind better the Rothlisbooger and way better than Eli Manning. It makes you wonder if the N.Y.G. should have kept Rivers when they drafted him.

It certainly helps that the 49ners. and the Cardinals have a loss to salve yesterdays debacle. Our team has always learned from painful mistakes and I am confident they will learn from this one.

Who know? Maybe we witnessed a preview of the Super Bowl?? Who knows? Maybe Rivers won 't be the best QB not to hoist a Lombardi?

Seahawk 4ever..... This group has been together a long time. During our 2005 Super Bowl run, someone started a thread called "2-2 is a DISASTER!" Every year since, someone starts a similar thread in homage to yester year, to provide some levity, & to remind us all that losing a game this early in the season is not the end of the world.

Nobody really thinks 1-1 is a disaster. Disappointing, yeah...disaster, not so much.

BTW, the Cards are 2&0 but the Niner loss was some much needed salve!

[burrrton]

We Didn't play that badly except for a few plays

I think it's just the opposite- we played pretty mediocre-to-poor except for a few plays that went well. The offense played better than the D, but their performance was a far cry from week 1, and the defense gave up 30 points and couldn't get off the field.

Hey, we're gonna be everybody's game of the year, get used to getting the very best each team has to offer.

We agree on that, though.

But I sure ain't worried about us.

I'll be ok if we bounce back against the Donks. That's just how I am, though.

[Hawktawk]

Yeah LOL 1-1 is a disaster. what would 1-2 be? GO HAWKS!!!!

[#37]

Though this loss is said to be negatively ineffectual on our season, as a whole, it sure makes week 3 a must win...

[HumanCockroach]

No game three is a "must win" game, teams have gone 0-3 and made the playoffs, certainly not going to panic over a 1-2 start ( though IMHO the pressure "builds" when you put yourself it that type of hole). "Important" ? Of course "must win? Nah, a "must win" game is one they have to win no matter what to keep their season alive, does anyone really view the Bronco's as a "win or go home" season ending type game?

[#37]

No game three is a "must win" game

I am skeptical of forecast stratagem in football. I think Pete Carroll's coached mentality of one game at a time, and every game is a championship game, is a paramount mindset. For this reason, and so many others, we must defeat Denver week 3.

[obiken]

The problem is the rest of the division. We HAVE to have home field advantage in the PO's. We are NOT the 49ers who can go on the road and win games.
Losing this game at the Clink would be huge. However, Seattle is a completely different FB team at home vs. on the road, so I think they will win a tough game. Denver is a lot tougher team than we beat in the SB however. 27-24 Seattle.

[Hawktawk]

The problem is the rest of the division. We HAVE to have home field advantage in the PO's. We are NOT the 49ers who can go on the road and win games.
Losing this game at the Clink would be huge. However, Seattle is a completely different FB team at home vs. on the road, so I think they will win a tough game. Denver is a lot tougher team than we beat in the SB however. 27-24 Seattle.

Denver not a must win. But if they come in and take Seattle's lunch money its officially buzz kill on 2014 and time for some serious concern.

However I dont think anyone would be sitting around feeling confident facing Seattle at home in the playoffs. Seattle was 6-2 on the road last year and was 1-1 should a been at least 2-0 in 2012 in the playoffs.

[RiverDog]

The problem is the rest of the division. We HAVE to have home field advantage in the PO's. We are NOT the 49ers who can go on the road and win games.
Losing this game at the Clink would be huge. However, Seattle is a completely different FB team at home vs. on the road, so I think they will win a tough game. Denver is a lot tougher team than we beat in the SB however. 27-24 Seattle.

Obi, you're a big college fan, and I think the college game affects your thinking. If Oregon loses one game early in the year you can pretty much kiss your chances of a NC goodbye, at least under the old BCS system. The NFL isn't like that, which is one of the reasons why the pro game is more appealing to me than the colleges. You know the saying...on any given Sunday.

I'm not panicking nor calling the Denver game a 'must.' Arizona is the only team without a loss, and you know they aren't going to last long. They host the Niners this weekend. The Denver game, like the Chargers game last Sunday, will not be used in any tiebreaker scenario.

If the Niners were to have started out 3-0 and we started out 1-2, then I'd be a little more concerned. But that ain't happening. Sunday's game is very important and losing to the Chargers has elevated its importance, but not to the point where if we lose it means that if we lose we are denied home field advantage. The only other two teams in our conference that are 2-0 are the Panthers and Eagles, and we play both.

Speaking of which, I am not nearly as concerned about going on the road as I once was. We've played very well on the road lately. Last Sunday's game was the first time in over two years where we lost a game by more than a TD.

[Long Time Fan]

I'm not panicking nor calling the Denver game a 'must.' Arizona is the only team without a loss, and you know they aren't going to last long. They host the Niners this weekend. The Denver game, like the Chargers game last Sunday, will not be used in any tiebreaker scenario.

If the Niners were to have started out 3-0 and we started out 1-2, then I'd be a little more concerned. But that ain't happening. Sunday's game is very important and losing to the Chargers has elevated its importance, but not to the point where if we lose it means that if we lose we are denied home field advantage. The only other two teams in our conference that are 2-0 are the Panthers and Eagles, and we play both.

Speaking of which, I am not nearly as concerned about going on the road as I once was. We've played very well on the road lately. Last Sunday's game was the first time in over two years where we lost a game by more than a TD.

Breathe deep the cool clean air of perspective.

Have we forgotten the wonderful rollercoaster of emotions that is the regular season. Buckle up boys this will be a wild ride season. As defending champs we are entitled to nothing. This team must fight and scrap like every other team in the league. Have some faith boys. By season's end the same guys, whose sphincters are now tightening, will be crowing the loudest over a possible re-Pete. Enjoy the journey.

[#37]

Enjoy the journey.

Roger that!