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Calling out unsung heros

Postby RiverDog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:41 am

I have two.

Jon Ryan. He was awesome, a true defensive weapon. 6 punts, 5 downed inside the 20 with a long of 66.

JR Sweezy. What a block on the final TD in OT! The guy is turning into a very good OG.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby savvyman » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:57 am

Williams & Mebane - Denver had 20 rush attempts for 36 yards - take away the 10 yard gain that resulted in a fumble and Denver had 19 rushes for 26 yards.

Ricardo Lockette who was a force on Punt coverage again and made an all-pro body screening move on Talib to catch the 39 yard touchdown that put the Hawks up 10-3.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby mykc14 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:33 am

savvyman wrote:Williams & Mebane - Denver had 20 rush attempts for 36 yards - take away the 10 yard gain that resulted in a fumble and Denver had 19 rushes for 26 yards.

Ricardo Lockette who was a force on Punt coverage again and made an all-pro body screening move on Talib to catch the 39 yard touchdown that put the Hawks up 10-3.


Don't forget his offensive PI that saved an INT. I have to agree with Ryan as well. He was a stud, how about that 79 yard put on the free kick following the safety. That was just crazy. I think they started at like the 22 after that kick, which never happens after a safety, I mean most teams make it out to like 35 following a free kick, but not with Ryan when he lets that leg hang out the ball goes flyin.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby RiverDog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:39 am

mykc14 wrote:Don't forget his offensive PI that saved an INT. I have to agree with Ryan as well. He was a stud, how about that 79 yard put on the free kick following the safety. That was just crazy. I think they started at like the 22 after that kick, which never happens after a safety, I mean most teams make it out to like 35 following a free kick, but not with Ryan when he lets that leg hang out the ball goes flyin.


Not that I want to rain on anyone's parade, but it was a warm day, and the ball carries better. It was the fact that he had 5 of 6 punts downed inside the 20 is what most impressed me.

Good point about Lockette's PI. Stuff like that doesn't show up in the box score.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Seahawks4Ever » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:56 am

Jon Ryan's punting today was a real weapon. What Jon was able to do reminded me of what was said about Ray Guy (not to compare the two) and what he had brought to the NFL. He consistently pinned the Broncos deep in their own territory and a long field to go.

Sweezy is the unsung player on the O-Line. I use the word consistent again to describe J.R. Sweezy. He HAD to be good because Britt was in for all he could handle.

Ricardo Lockette has had his fans here in the Shack and he has rewarded their confidence in him. What an opportune time for the Seahawk passing game that Lockette is having a break out season. He has been stellar on ST and now he has been adding to what he did in the SB.

It was said that Percy Harvin made Tate expendable and I believe that Lockette has taken the place of Sydney Rice.

To those 3 players I add Burley, he has come in and done the job under difficult circumstances.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby mykc14 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:12 pm

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Jon Ryan's punting today was a real weapon. What Jon was able to do reminded me of what was said about Ray Guy (not to compare the two) and what he had brought to the NFL. He consistently pinned the Broncos deep in their own territory and a long field to go.

Sweezy is the unsung player on the O-Line. I use the word consistent again to describe J.R. Sweezy. He HAD to be good because Britt was in for all he could handle.

Ricardo Lockette has had his fans here in the Shack and he has rewarded their confidence in him. What an opportune time for the Seahawk passing game that Lockette is having a break out season. He has been stellar on ST and now he has been adding to what he did in the SB.

It was said that Percy Harvin made Tate expendable and I believe that Lockette has taken the place of Sydney Rice.

To those 3 players I add Burley, he has come in and done the job under difficult circumstances.


Great points! Especially regarding Sweezy and Burley. My biggest worry for this team after that first game was nickel corner and Burley has played better than I could have hoped. Great move by the FO.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:28 pm

I think we have to acknowledge the WRs coach Kippy Brown and his assistants as well as the DBs coach Kris Richard and his assistants in coaching the individual players to play within their systems.
Lockette's progress in his WR play and specifically the Offensive PI call that stopped an INT didn't happen by accident, and Burley fitting in relatively seamlessly as others have in the past shows how well they do their respective jobs.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Zorn76 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:36 pm

Ryan was Huge on his punts.

Lockette had a great TD catch along with his head up "good" OPI penalty.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby jshawaii22 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:29 pm

The hero of the day, It was the death stare by Tavaris on that poor coin at the start of OT. He willed it to 'heads'

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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:04 pm

I remember a discussion about our receiving corps in the off season and there was mostly negative feedback on the chances of Lockette being much of a factor as a reciever. But if you looked at the guys measurables it was intriguing. He has blazing speed and an almost TO type of physique. Well hes blowing up now and it looks like its going to be a great thing for the offense. He is already the most insanely good gunner we have seen in quite a while........
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby RiverDog » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:50 am

No one wants to talk about the big uglies?

It might be just an impression, but I get the sense that JR Sweezy is really coming into his own.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:43 am

RiverDog wrote:No one wants to talk about the big uglies?

It might be just an impression, but I get the sense that JR Sweezy is really coming into his own.


Hey Riv, I know you pay a little closer attention to the big uglies. So.....

I was wondering through 3 games what your impression of Justin Britt has been. I have not heard his name much, which I take as a good thing.

Anyone else with any insight on his play would be appreciated, as I admit I don't watch the O-line much during a game and don't know enough about the position to know what I am talking about.

For a rookie RT, I am guessing he has graded out pretty well through 3 games.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:46 am

Hawktawk wrote:I remember a discussion about our receiving corps in the off season and there was mostly negative feedback on the chances of Lockette being much of a factor as a reciever. But if you looked at the guys measurables it was intriguing. He has blazing speed and an almost TO type of physique. Well hes blowing up now and it looks like its going to be a great thing for the offense. He is already the most insanely good gunner we have seen in quite a while........


I remember thinking to myself Lockette was in trouble when he got mixed up in that situation with Kaepernick and another player in regards to that woman who claimed they had done something to her.

He has been a pleasant surprise this year, especially at the gunner position where we are missing another stud in Jeremy Lane.

I think it was Lockette that destroyed LaMichael James in last year's NFC Championship game on a punt in the 2nd quarter. Absolutely crushed him.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Seahawks4Ever » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:54 am

Britt has been a fine job for being so young. He needed some help yesterday after he made a couple of mistakes. He has been a great pickup and he is only going to get better.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:44 am

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Britt has been a fine job for being so young. He needed some help yesterday after he made a couple of mistakes. He has been a great pickup and he is only going to get better.


He does look like he has a future in the NFL. So far he looks like he was a good pick.

I saw Carpenter blocking about 10 yards downfield on a couple of plays again on Sunday. Those 15 lbs (or more) seem to have really made a difference.
He might just turn out to be a pretty good Guard.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby HumanCockroach » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:12 pm

That's interesting as PFF just put out an article talking about how Carpenter and Sweezy ( as well as Unger) graded out as a top five pass blocking interior in the NFL through three games. That said Okung ranked near the bottom, and Britt was actually ranked higher ( though still pretty low, though above Giacomini so that's a positive). The problems in the pass blocking hasn't been coming from the center of the line, but the outside. Okung needs to find that play that made him valuable, Britt continues to improve each and every week, Carpenter/Sweezy are light years ahead of where they were last season.

Honestly I'm not sure if people have forgotten what was happening last season, or if the expectations or insane. Wilson isn't being pressure more than other QB's, and at least this season when he IS being pressured, more often than not it is because of a blitz ( SD spent pretty much the entire game bringing extra people) Wilson has grown up ( throwing the ball away far more often than last season etc) and I expect that by the end of the year, he will learn how to beat those blitzes ( as that my fellow posters is the QB's responsibility, not the lines.) Couple quick slants to Harvin and Robertson, should back those MFrs off.... :)

Personally, I'm impressed with Both Britt and Carpenter's play so far this season. They are never going to be the premier pass blocking guards in the NFL ( nor should they be expected to be, as that simply isn't what they were brought in to be) but top five in the NFL? Plus the "nasty" in the run game? I'll take that and smile all the way to February.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:20 pm

Sweezy is a mauler. Hes the nastiest guard we have had since Hutch took the money and ran.The run blocking seems improved in general. But in pass blocking I'm seeing quite a few delayed blitzes right up the middle with guys coming clean. Is that a scheme issue or what?
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby HumanCockroach » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:03 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Sweezy is a mauler. Hes the nastiest guard we have had since Hutch took the money and ran.The run blocking seems improved in general. But in pass blocking I'm seeing quite a few delayed blitzes right up the middle with guys coming clean. Is that a scheme issue or what?


Not sure if it is scheme, but often times, a defense brings more than there are blockers ( SD did that almost non stop) Wilson has to recognise it, and find the outlet quickly. As much as I love Wilson, he still struggles in that area ( though to be fair, ALL QB's struggle in that area). If he can see it, and quickly find the appropriate receiver the blitzing will cease, creating more time for him to pick apart a defense.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby RiverDog » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:25 am

Agent 86 wrote:Hey Riv, I know you pay a little closer attention to the big uglies. So.....

I was wondering through 3 games what your impression of Justin Britt has been. I have not heard his name much, which I take as a good thing.

Anyone else with any insight on his play would be appreciated, as I admit I don't watch the O-line much during a game and don't know enough about the position to know what I am talking about.

For a rookie RT, I am guessing he has graded out pretty well through 3 games.


On Game Day, I'm like every other casual fan in that I watch the ball and don't pay a lot of attention to the blocking up front. When I see a specific replay, I'll focus in on some detail, such as on a QB sack to see where the breakdown was. If I watch the game replay later in the week, I'll be more observant and critical of the big uglies. So far, I haven't watched the Broncos game a second time.

My impression of Justin Britt is that he's doing an excellent job in run blocking but is struggling in his pass protection. He's almost a mirror image of Russell Okung, who is showing almost the same exact pattern. I've seen him lose his balance against a bull rush and get beat on the edge several times. At this point, I think he's a good pick for where we selected him at and has the ability to lock down that position for several years although I don't expect a lot of Pro Bowls or that he'd ever be a permanent replacement for Okung should we part ways with him next year.

Again, that's only an impression and we're only at Game 3 of his rookie season. We'll see.
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Re: Calling out unsung heros

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:41 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:
Not sure if it is scheme, but often times, a defense brings more than there are blockers ( SD did that almost non stop) Wilson has to recognise it, and find the outlet quickly. As much as I love Wilson, he still struggles in that area ( though to be fair, ALL QB's struggle in that area). If he can see it, and quickly find the appropriate receiver the blitzing will cease, creating more time for him to pick apart a defense.


Yeah San Diego seemed to have Seattle flummoxed in general and they were coming in untouched on a couple of those plays.
Its probably incorrect to call them delayed blitzes but more like well executed stunts by the front 7.The first one trapping him for a huge sack taking us out of FG range was huge and set the tone for that entire game.
Wilson looked a lot better last Sunday getting off those little quick flips on the short routes over the middle. And I agree HC that no QB likes having pressure directly up the middle. It just seems to me that those stunts are being used by our opponents a little more this season.

Russ will adjust.Also smashing them in the mouth with Unger, Sweezy,Carp and Beast right behind that half ton wall of gristle will slow that stuff way down too.
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