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Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Anthony » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:20 am

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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby BelizeHawk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:45 am

Right. The organization that traded a star like Percy Harvin mid-season without anyone having a clue, is going to leak information on their plans for contract negotiations with Russell Wilson.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby RiverDog » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:55 am

BelizeHawk wrote:Right. The organization that traded a star like Percy Harvin mid-season without anyone having a clue, is going to leak information on their plans for contract negotiations with Russell Wilson.


Good point. This seems like pure speculation to me. Of course, any player's contract offer will depend on their performance, and Russell is no different. But this report is hinting that our FO is still not convinced he's our QBOTF.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Anthony » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:56 am

RiverDog wrote: Good point. This seems like pure speculation to me. Of course, any player's contract offer will depend on their performance, and Russell is no different. But this report is hinting that our FO is still not convinced he's our QBOTF.


Agreed, everyone I know connected to the Hawks have said there is 0% chance they do not try to extend him after the season.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby HumanCockroach » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:02 pm

Pffft. Stupid, lazy reporting, based on nothing but wanting to put his name in the paper, hence "may" depend on the season, ie, "we have no idea what so ever, now let us share that with you". Even IF that is the case ( doubtful) he is going to get his contract and money from Seattle with or without another SB victory.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby RiverDog » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:16 pm

I'd be more worried about Russell's willingness to stay with us than I would be about our FO being undecided about whether or not to extend his contract.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby BelizeHawk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:42 pm

While I don't believe their is any leaked information and I have no doubt the Hawks fully intend to keep RW as their QBOTF, their is some validity in saying that contract talks are going to be impacted by the results of this season. If RW struggles his price tag is going to go down, if he plays like he is capable and the Hawks win it all again, his price tag is going to go up.
But to say that they are questioning whether or not they really want to go forward with him is asinine. What would the alternative be? Make a play for RGIII? Trade for the odd man out in the Foles/Sanchez situation? Bring back Pryor? Start TJack? Bring back Hasselbeck? Maybe Kaepernick will be available.
RW is the Hawks guy and they are lucky to have him.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby savvyman » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:08 pm

For goodness sakes - Does anyone really doubt that the Seahawk's are going to try to wrap up Russell for his entire football career at the earliest opportunity?
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Hawktawk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:05 pm

Prior to the Harvin fiasco I thought PC and JS were rock solid with their decision making. I have a hard time believing they could mangle this. If for whatever reason they attempted to bring Wilson back on his rookie deal next year I would expect and support him holding out. If 3 years of what we have witnessed isn't proof he is a star I dont know what would be. Pay the man.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Anthony » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:19 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Prior to the Harvin fiasco I thought PC and JS were rock solid with their decision making. I have a hard time believing they could mangle this. If for whatever reason they attempted to bring Wilson back on his rookie deal next year I would expect and support him holding out. If 3 years of what we have witnessed isn't proof he is a star I dont know what would be. Pay the man.


Agreed but if he holds out, and then comes in you can guarantee the Tag will be off the table, and if that happens we loose him to a team that will commit to the pass game.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:43 pm

In the words of Aaron Rodgers, RELAX.
It's just an opinion of what the options for the team are, not necessarily what they intend to do.

Does anyone really think Pete and John could find a better 'Point Guard' for this team?
They'll take care of him when the time is right.

I agree with RD, in that I would be more concerned that Wilson wants to be here than them playing stupid games with salary.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby obiken » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:44 pm

I'd be more worried about Russell's willingness to stay with us than I would be about our FO being undecided about whether or not to extend his contract.

I am with you River, however IF the current FO lets Wilson get away then the fans would be PIZZED OFF. I don't see it.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby THX-1138 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:39 pm

Not even going to bother legitimizing that article with a click. It's more divisive media speculation horse puckey.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby I-5 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:17 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Prior to the Harvin fiasco I thought PC and JS were rock solid with their decision making. I have a hard time believing they could mangle this. If for whatever reason they attempted to bring Wilson back on his rookie deal next year I would expect and support him holding out. If 3 years of what we have witnessed isn't proof he is a star I dont know what would be. Pay the man.


When you say Harvin fiasco, did you mean trading for him, or trading him to the Jets? If you mean the former, I'd agree with you. At the same time, I get what they were attempting to do, they just had no idea what they were in for.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby RiverDog » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:35 pm

obiken wrote:I am with you River, however IF the current FO lets Wilson get away then the fans would be PIZZED OFF. I don't see it.


I don't think this will be the team's call. We'll offer him a competitive package that will be in line with the top quarterbacks in the league. I don't see us as having any other reasonable choice. I think whether or not Russell resigns will depend on Russell. He's been through a lot since the SB, from his marriage difficulties and the Golden Tate rumors, the Percy Harvin fiasco, the not black enough rumors, and of course, the team not winning as often as we have the past couple of seasons. If this season were to turn south and we miss the playoffs, it wouldn't be a complete surprise if it came out one day that he felt that he needed a change of scenery.

But even that scenario seems pretty far fetched. I'm quite certain that Russell is preoccupied with preparing for the Eagles right now and that his approaching contract dilemma is the furthest thing from his mind. It's a subject we should table until the offseason.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Zorn76 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:16 pm

savvyman wrote:For goodness sakes - Does anyone really doubt that the Seahawk's are going to try to wrap up Russell for his entire football career at the earliest opportunity?


Exactly.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby monkey » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:19 pm

Anthony wrote:http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/11/27/seattle-seahawks-russell-wilson-contract-extension-decision

Thoughts? I call BS!!!


This is what is known as "Bait and Click" sports reporting. I would already seriously doubt its validity just given the fact that it's Florio writing this. Add in the fact that this whole thing supposedly comes from an "un-named source" and this is clearly, pure speculation, and imagination. If Florio wants me to EVER take what he claims at face value, then he'd better start naming his "sources; and if Florio wants me to take what he claims seriously, when it's patently STUPID...well then he'd better have several sources, all of them willing to divulge their identities, otherwise, I'm calling B.S. every time.

Let me put it this way, the ONLY thing the Seahawks are waiting for, is the season to end, so that they can quickly give Russell Wilson a VERY big and VERY, VERY long contract.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Seahawks4Ever » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:41 pm

RW isn't going anywhere, except maybe to the bank with a much larger account than he ever dreamed of. Yeah, he has bounced back from that funk he was in and that bodes well for the rest of the season.

I feel really foolish now for doubting they would defeat both the Cardinals and the Whiners all within 5 days. I understand they had a series of team meetings that got all of the bad air out of the locker room. Good for them, great for us.

Wilson was finally able to get the ball down field, something he had not done on a consistent basis for most of the season. The down side to that is that none of those down field throws came from the pocket, they were thrown on the run. Until RW can demonstrate that he can consistently complete passes down the field, especially over the middle, from the pocket there are going to be questions about his game. While I wish he could throw down field as well as Drew Brees I also don't want him to throw 400+ yards in a losing effort like Brees did the other day. There has to be balance. A better line and better receivers would help, of course, and throw in better play calling by the OC wouldn't hurt either.

It was said that RW the last two games was more patient with his receivers, allowing them to run their routes before taking off scrambling. Myself, I didn't notice him scrambling until he had to so I don't know what to think of the "Wilson as been more patient" theory.

I know I was out of line to blame Wilson's height on his inability to throw the ball over the middle from the pocket. But, I was exasperated at the lack of production he was generating with his arm as opposed to his feet. I love the guy, I always will but it sounds like even his coaches were concerned too, though, they were not going to throw the baby out with the bath water as was I.
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby Anthony » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:06 pm

Seahawks4Ever wrote:RW isn't going anywhere, except maybe to the bank with a much larger account than he ever dreamed of. Yeah, he has bounced back from that funk he was in and that bodes well for the rest of the season.

I feel really foolish now for doubting they would defeat both the Cardinals and the Whiners all within 5 days. I understand they had a series of team meetings that got all of the bad air out of the locker room. Good for them, great for us.

Wilson was finally able to get the ball down field, something he had not done on a consistent basis for most of the season. The down side to that is that none of those down field throws came from the pocket, they were thrown on the run. Until RW can demonstrate that he can consistently complete passes down the field, especially over the middle, from the pocket there are going to be questions about his game. While I wish he could throw down field as well as Drew Brees I also don't want him to throw 400+ yards in a losing effort like Brees did the other day. There has to be balance. A better line and better receivers would help, of course, and throw in better play calling by the OC wouldn't hurt either.

It was said that RW the last two games was more patient with his receivers, allowing them to run their routes before taking off scrambling. Myself, I didn't notice him scrambling until he had to so I don't know what to think of the "Wilson as been more patient" theory.

I know I was out of line to blame Wilson's height on his inability to throw the ball over the middle from the pocket. But, I was exasperated at the lack of production he was generating with his arm as opposed to his feet. I love the guy, I always will but it sounds like even his coaches were concerned too, though, they were not going to throw the baby out with the bath water as was I.



Good post, Rw has already shown he can throw deep form the pocket many times. So that is only an issue to those who have not watched him enough. Clayton already said the repost that the OC wrote is wrong, and I would believe Clayton long before I would believe the "unnamed league source".
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Re: Report: Decision on Wilson extension may depend

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Wilson's problem with throwing downfield from the pocket stems from there rarely being a pocket to throw from.
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