Rumors and visits anyone?

[monkey]

I thought that maybe starting a thread for all the free agency rumors wouldn't be a bad idea.
First up, https://twitter.com/SI_DougFarrar Apparently Jermichael Finley's first visit is to Seattle.
After signing McCoy this isn't terribly surprising. We could probably sign Finley on a low budget, prove it deal much like Bennett last year, while letting Miller walk, and saving a bunch under the cap. A move like this would make sense because it's really all about Luke Willson, the FO projects him to be the starter eventually, maybe as soon as this year, making Miller expendable. Especially if they could sign some some more cheap insurance.

[monkey]

Also rumored to be gone to the Jags is Thurmond.
I'm betting this one is legit.

[NorthHawk]

That would mean they would have to fix the OL because Finley isn't much of a blocker, either.

[monkey]

Apparently Clinton McDonald is going to Tampa Bay.
That one is a bit disappointing actually, BUT if the rumor that the deal was four years/12 million....well that's just an overpay!
Still this one is disappointing, I thought he was a legit stud last year for us.

[savvyman]

LOL


https://twitter.com/WaltThurm3?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thenewstribune.com%2Fseahawks%2F&profile_id=18926167&tw_i=443496181872594945&tw_p=embeddedtimeline&tw_w=344865170213965824

[savvyman]

Apparently Clinton McDonald is going to Tampa Bay.
That one is a bit disappointing actually, BUT if the rumor that the deal was four years/12 million....well that's just an overpay!
Still this one is disappointing, I thought he was a legit stud last year for us.

Yes - He got pressure from the Inside - I think this is an undervalued role in the NFL - getting pressure from the inside pass rush. There are a number of players who can get pressure from the outside but a lot fewer who can get pressure from tyhe middle - and that what makes Bennett so valuable too is his ability to get pressure from both the inside and edge position.

Schofield is getting $4 million a year and he accounted for all of 10 tackles last season - I guess they are paying him on expected future output? The $4 million for schofield kind of makes Bennett contract look less like Costco and more like Wal-mart?

[savvyman]

Golden Tate to visit Detroit?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/443505575901802497

[Zorn76]

Golden Tate to visit Detroit?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/443505575901802497

Anything's possible, but I think this is just the usual ploy in attempting to drive up the deal in Seattle. Typical stuff in that regard.

But, if he goes, he goes. I like GT, and he's come into his own the last couple seasons. But his possible departure would serve to force the Seahawks to upgread the position which, IMO, they need to do anyway. Besides, if we shore up our OL appreciably, then just about any WR will be able to work their way open with RW throwing and the threat of Beast Mode left in tact.

[NorthHawk]

If Tate does leave, I hope they sign some guy with return skills.
Percy probably won't last the year without injury, so someone has to be able to return punts and kicks.

[kalibane]

Jason Hatcher to visit Seattle.

[monkey]

Jason Hatcher to visit Seattle.

This would be a HUGELY underrated move if it were to happen! Hatcher has been around the league for a while and has always had a high motor with legit pass rush skills from the tackle spot.
I would be VERY, VERY in favor of this if it were to happen...in fact I would say that it would be nearly on par with how I felt last year when word came out we signed Bennett (who I was actually even higher on than I was Cliff Avril...which is saying something because I LOVED the Avril signing.) He would fit into the rotation SO nicely...he could potentially come in for Bennett when he needs a breather, or slides out to end, without losing pass rush from the DT spot.
Seriously...this is a move I'd do a big fist pump over, it would make our D-Line rotation as a whole INSANELY O.P.!

EDIT: BTW the Saints defense just got better really quick. Now only the Seahawks can honestly say that they have a better pair of safeties than the Saints.
That's a pretty sick tandem right there.
Also, the Broncos by adding TJ Ward have helped themselves, and if they also add one of either Demarcus Ware or Jared Allen as they are rumored to be in the hunt for, they will also have upgraded their defense quite a bit.
Remember to that they will have Miller back next year...that could be a much improved defense.

[depaashaas]

Guess Jermichael Finley is coming to town to talk and according to NFL Hawks are also talking to Jarred Allen, looks like it could get interesting also could get boring real fast you just never know with Pete and John

[savvyman]

Breno is on his Way to visit the Jets Per ESPN.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 19m

Jets making strong push to sign Seahawks free-agent OT Breno Giacomini, who's on his way to visit team Wednesday

[4XPIPS]

Breno is on his Way to visit the Jets Per ESPN.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 19m

Jets making strong push to sign Seahawks free-agent OT Breno Giacomini, who's on his way to visit team Wednesday

Y.... E.... S....

YES YES YES!

Take this idiot from our team

[Zorn76]

Breno is on his Way to visit the Jets Per ESPN.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 19m

Jets making strong push to sign Seahawks free-agent OT Breno Giacomini, who's on his way to visit team Wednesday

Y.... E.... S....

YES YES YES!

Take this idiot from our team

lol 4x.

I hear ya, too.

Liked his moxie and attitude, but he and Carp, for starters, need to go. Improving the OL, along with Harvin's health, are the biggest x-factors going pertaining to the Seahawks' chances of a championship repeat.

[RiverDog]

Breno is on his Way to visit the Jets Per ESPN.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 19m

Jets making strong push to sign Seahawks free-agent OT Breno Giacomini, who's on his way to visit team Wednesday

Y.... E.... S....

YES YES YES!

Take this idiot from our team

And just who do we replace him with? Did you see how good our protection was when he was injured this season? It was like feeding time at the zoo.

I don't have a problem letting Breno go as he's not the long term answer at RT so long as we have a plan to replace him, and unless Pete and John see a diamond in the rough, I don't see where we're going to find one. All the top OL's that would represent an upgrade got snapped up on the first day of FA, plus the Whiners just completed a deal for Jonathan Martin, so it's apparent that there's a run on offensive linemen, which may continue right through the draft. Going into the draft in the bottom slot and without a 3rd rounder thanks to the Harvin trade, we are not in the best of positions to draft an OL that can contribute immediately, especially a tackle.

As long as it doesn't hinder our ability to resign our core guys, I want to get Breno back. I don't have a problem letting McQ go as finding a guard in the draft that will be available with the picks we have is more likely than finding a suitable replacement for our starting RT. Next to resigning our key players, upgrading our OL has to be our top offseason priority, and letting a solid starter go without someone in line to replace him is a step in the wrong direction.

[monkey]

Yeah...I can't really agree with being happy over losing Breno.
If that happens we probably will have to rely on Bailey or Bowie at RT, neither of whom have proven anything yet, and as such are a bit of a risk.
Even going out and getting some free agent...really who is there?
That leaves the draft.
Great.
Now instead of taking BPA, we're looking to make sure we fill a need at RT.

Naw, I liked Breno's attitude, sure I disliked his penalties (which I would note, went down this last season) but his fire was a good thing to have on the line. He's a lot like Brandon Browner to me, you know he'll get beat occasionally, and will get flagged from time to time, but his attitude and fire make him valuable.

EDIT: As for Finley coming to visit, this is something I am really warming up to the idea of because of something I remembered from a while back.
Remember when we picked up oft injured TE Kellen Winslow to be our "joker"? The idea was that in two TE sets, you can use the Joker, (H Back) to create all kinds of mismatches, because depending on how the defense tries to play it, you are always an audible away from having a big advantage. If they play their base defense, you move that joker around to create the passing mismatch, if they go nickle, you run, always giving you an advantage.

Think Finley and Willson on the field at the same time...and while you're seeing the possibilities remember that we probably get Finley on a cheap, one year, prove it deal, like we got Bennett last year, then think about how much size, and height advantage this would give us in the red zone, the area of the field where we've struggled a bit. We always seem better suited to throwing touchdowns from outside the red zone, than from within....possibly because we have/had so many run-after-the-catch playmakers at WR but not a lot of height once Rice went down.
That could change with Finley in that Joker role that we wanted Winslow to play. Just saying...this idea has real merit.

[monkey]

BTW, the Broncos have signed Talib now, and are in talks with Demarcus Ware...dude...seriously...the Broncos are pushing their chips ALL IN!
Of course, given Manning's age, it's definitely the right thing to do, and really, out of the AFC, who is there who can beat them?
If the Doncos improve the defense, especially at pass rush and in the secondary, who's to say they cannot go right back to the Super Bowl?
I wouldn't bet against them! They could easily lose guys like Decker and Nosering Potato (QB's on Facebook reference) and be just fine offensively, it was the other side of the ball, and special teams (lack of balance!!!) that was their Achilles Heal.

[RiverDog]

BTW, the Broncos have signed Talib now, and are in talks with Demarcus Ware...dude...seriously...the Broncos are pushing their chips ALL IN!
Of course, given Manning's age, it's definitely the right thing to do, and really, out of the AFC, who is there who can beat them?
If the Doncos improve the defense, especially at pass rush and in the secondary, who's to say they cannot go right back to the Super Bowl?
I wouldn't bet against them! They could easily lose guys like Decker and Nosering Potato (QB's on Facebook reference) and be just fine offensively, it was the other side of the ball, and special teams (lack of balance!!!) that was their Achilles Heal.

Yea, that deal with Talib is insane. $57M over 6 years with $26M guaranteed? Sure makes you wonder how much money Sherman could get on the FA market.

[NorthHawk]

The Broncos know that Manning can only take them so far and that Defense is more important than regular season stats.
As well it's Mannings last couple of years so their window is very small and closing.

Coupled with the league opening their eyes and seeing that Defense does in fact win championships, there looks like more emphasis on pass rushing and Secondary.
I think that's why we are seeing such high prices for CBs.

[savvyman]

Bronco's continue to go all in with their chips.

Apparently just signed Demarcus Ware to 3 year $30 million deal.

With upgrades to Safety, Cornerback and now defensive end (plus the return of Von Miller) if these veterans still have juice then the Broncos have significantly upgraded their defense for next season.

[monkey]

Gotta say, IMO the Broncos are doing the right thing here. Signing Ware is a heckuva move...I'm impressed with what they've done so far.
Sure, a few years from now, when they are in full rebuild mode, fans will whine and complain, but with Peyton nearing the end of his career, this is the smart move. I'd do the same thing if I were them.

[kalibane]

I kind of hope Denver just keeps signing people. I can't think of a time when this kind of strategy pays off. Elway must really be fuming over that Superbowl because this is like Dan Snyder stuff.

[savvyman]

I kind of hope Denver just keeps signing people. I can't think of a time when this kind of strategy pays off. Elway must really be fuming over that Superbowl because this is like Dan Snyder stuff.

Like monkey says short term this is a smart move - the window is now for the Broncos. At the same time they know they are sowing the seeds of destruction over the medium and long term with these moves.

[kalibane]

I get that but the way I look at it is this. Yes Talib is an upgrade over Rodgers-Cromartie. Demarcus Ware shoudl be able to replace what Dumervil gave to them before the fax machine episode and T.J. Ward is like a poor man's shorter Kam Chancellor.

The problem is this still doesn't solve their back end coverage problems because Ward can't cover. Their defense was suprisingly competant last year because of guys like Vickerson, Phillips and Knighton (even though Knighton's impact was overstated after that Patriots game).

People are saying stuff like Denver learned about the importance of defense from what happened to them against Seattle, but what really happened against Seattle was that Seattle had a way deeper team. These signings make Denver thinner. The Broncos couldn't spread Seattle out because they were deep. They couldn't tire out the pass rush because Seattle was deep.

When injuries happen for Denver (and they will happen). They are going to be left exposed. They didn't really fix their holes, they just upgraded positions that weren't their primary problems. I really think they are going to rue the day they made these signings. And if Revis ends up in NE, which there is some whispering about now, where he can take away Demaryius Thomas without a Decker on the other side. I won't be shocked if Denver doesn't get back to the Superbowl.

They are going to miss guys like Phillips, Woodyard, Moreno, Decker and Beadles. And they aren't going to be able to afford to replace them with these massive signings.

I will say though that I like the TJ Ward signing. I think they live to regret the other two though.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Jermarcus Finley, really? He has a pain in the neck and he is OLD. I can't believe that this old fart is the best Schneider can come up with. J.S. seems to want to take the Seahawks from having one of the youngest rosters to having one of the oldest.

What has happened to the real John Schneider? Was he kidnapped and replaced by the Mariner G.M.?? Is Zuiedcinck masquerading as J.S.??? Pull of that blond wig and lets see if it is a big fat headed bald guy!

You can't get away with this Jack Z, wrecking the Seahawks roster won't make people like the Mariners...

[HumanCockroach]

Yeah...I can't really agree with being happy over losing Breno.
If that happens we probably will have to rely on Bailey or Bowie at RT, neither of whom have proven anything yet, and as such are a bit of a risk.
Even going out and getting some free agent...really who is there?
That leaves the draft.
Great.
Now instead of taking BPA, we're looking to make sure we fill a need at RT.

Naw, I liked Breno's attitude, sure I disliked his penalties (which I would note, went down this last season) but his fire was a good thing to have on the line. He's a lot like Brandon Browner to me, you know he'll get beat occasionally, and will get flagged from time to time, but his attitude and fire make him valuable.

EDIT: As for Finley coming to visit, this is something I am really warming up to the idea of because of something I remembered from a while back.
Remember when we picked up oft injured TE Kellen Winslow to be our "joker"? The idea was that in two TE sets, you can use the Joker, (H Back) to create all kinds of mismatches, because depending on how the defense tries to play it, you are always an audible away from having a big advantage. If they play their base defense, you move that joker around to create the passing mismatch, if they go nickle, you run, always giving you an advantage.

Think Finley and Willson on the field at the same time...and while you're seeing the possibilities remember that we probably get Finley on a cheap, one year, prove it deal, like we got Bennett last year, then think about how much size, and height advantage this would give us in the red zone, the area of the field where we've struggled a bit. We always seem better suited to throwing touchdowns from outside the red zone, than from within....possibly because we have/had so many run-after-the-catch playmakers at WR but not a lot of height once Rice went down.
That could change with Finley in that Joker role that we wanted Winslow to play. Just saying...this idea has real merit.

Always have advocated a pass catching stretch the field TE, just don't want one that drops the ball, and no matter what people want to say about Finley, he drops the ball, a LOT. First downs in this offense have been money, because the receiver core seldom dropped the ball. Tate, Baldwin, Rice ALL were in the top of the league in that regard, just don't relish the idea of not having that chain moving ability each and every drive. Finley is the TE version of Braylon Edwards or Micheal Bowie, they will make an absolutely amazing catch, and then back those up with crucial drops, with no one around, at critical moments.

[monkey]

This is the latest rumor from Rapaport on Allen, I'll just copy paste.
"UPDATE: After Ware signed his three-year, $30 million deal with the Broncos on Wednesday, Rapoport reported that Denver initially had the exact same offer on the table for Allen, according to a source informed of the team's situation.

Allen would have taken that deal, too, but Rapoport was told the Broncos made him wait as they huddled with Ware. Tough pill to swallow, as it won't be easy for Allen to land that kind of money elsewhere."

So apparently the Broncos made him wait to sign a contract that he would have signed, so they could find out if Ware would take it instead? Sounds kind of cheesy to me, but...whatever I guess. Just doesn't seem like a good way to do business, doesn't seem like something a "classy organization" would do. No sir, not very "classy" at all... (Yes I am still irritated with Doncos fans talking about how classy their organization was compared to the Seahawks, when there were many examples of that just not being true at all...whatever I'll drop it now.)

At any rate, this makes it all quite interesting. You gotta know that Allen is feeling a bit put off right now, but the problem is, no one else is going to offer him that much money, at least not a team that can realistically win anyway...Maybe what the Seahawks need to do is remind Allen that he can get even if he signs with us, and we beat those dead horses again.

[c_hawkbob]

But they're such pretty dead horses.

[monkey]

Jermarcus Finley, really? He has a pain in the neck and he is OLD. I can't believe that this old fart is the best Schneider can come up with. J.S. seems to want to take the Seahawks from having one of the youngest rosters to having one of the oldest.

What has happened to the real John Schneider? Was he kidnapped and replaced by the Mariner G.M.?? Is Zuiedcinck masquerading as J.S.??? Pull of that blond wig and lets see if it is a big fat headed bald guy!

You can't get away with this Jack Z, wrecking the Seahawks roster won't make people like the Mariners...

Remember this quote from Tom Cable?

"Zach Miller is what we call the 'Y' tight end. So, he's the guy that's going to line up, most of the time, on the line of scrimmage. Kellen will be what we call an 'U' tight end, or an 'H-Back.' So, he'll be the move around guy, you can split him out like a wide receiver, motion him around, shift him around, where Zach's job will be to do the tough guy work and the grunt work. [The H-back, though,] is a guy that will create matchups with linebackers when you put him in space."

"I think you have to make a decision as a defense now," he said, "do you want to play these guys in base defense? If you do, then you're going to have a linebacker covering those tight ends. If you're going to go the other way, say, we're going to put nickel in the game, then we're going to try to shove the ball down your throat running it. For us, it kind of puts us back into a position of power, where we're going to play off of how they want to substitute and how they want to match up. If they stay in base, you might see us attack them more and throw the ball more, if they get in nickel, you might see us run it more."

"Anytime on offense you can kind of dictate a little bit, then you're ahead of the defense."

That was from after the Seahawks signed Kellen Winslow to be the "joker", it tells you everything you need to know about why they want Finley (or a healthy version of him).
Trust me when I say that, if they don't sign Finley, they WILL keep looking for someone who can do what he does. It's what they have always wanted, just like they've always wanted to get a big body receiver in the Mike Williams mold.
It's Pete's blueprint for the offense. It's part of the same blueprint that got John to trade for Percy Harvin at a VERY big cost, proving just how far they will go to make Pete's vision for the offense come to pass. It's why they drafted Golden Tate to begin with, because he fit the Percy Harvin type of receiver that Pete wanted. Getting the real thing Percy Harvin, made the lesser clone expendable.
You get what I am saying?
This is all part of the plan, the big picture plan Pete has for the offense. Either you believe he knows what he is doing, or you don't...I'm not going to try to convince you he does, but I will say that if the Seattle Seahawks bring in Finley, it will be because he's healthy and inexpensive, and because they truly believe he can fill the joker TE role.
I wouldn't bet against it!

[HumanCockroach]

Jermarcus Finley, really? He has a pain in the neck and[color=#FF0000] he is OLD. I[/color] can't believe that this old fart is the best Schneider can come up with. J.S. seems to want to take the Seahawks from having one of the youngest rosters to having one of the oldest.

What has happened to the real John Schneider? Was he kidnapped and replaced by the Mariner G.M.?? Is Zuiedcinck masquerading as J.S.??? Pull of that blond wig and lets see if it is a big fat headed bald guy!

You can't get away with this Jack Z, wrecking the Seahawks roster won't make people like the Mariners...

What are you talking about? Finley is 26 years old. I don't want him because he drops the ball at a prohibitive rate, but he isn't anywhere near "old".

[monkey]

Jermarcus Finley, really? He has a pain in the neck and[color=#FF0000] he is OLD. I[/color] can't believe that this old fart is the best Schneider can come up with. J.S. seems to want to take the Seahawks from having one of the youngest rosters to having one of the oldest.

What has happened to the real John Schneider? Was he kidnapped and replaced by the Mariner G.M.?? Is Zuiedcinck masquerading as J.S.??? Pull of that blond wig and lets see if it is a big fat headed bald guy!

You can't get away with this Jack Z, wrecking the Seahawks roster won't make people like the Mariners...

What are you talking about? Finley is 26 years old. I don't want him because he drops the ball at a prohibitive rate, but he isn't anywhere near "old".

Actually, he did have the dropsies for a little while, but well before his injury, he seemed to have gotten past that and actually became quite reliable with his hands. (Per football outsiders, where it showed his drops came in a a bunch, then pretty much stopped).
I think he may be like Kearse in that, he figured it out and got past the drops. Just saying, I wouldn't be too concerned with it, when you look beyond just the number of drops in a season, and look at when they happened it seems to tell a different story altogether.

[Zorn76]

BTW, the Broncos have signed Talib now, and are in talks with Demarcus Ware...dude...seriously...the Broncos are pushing their chips ALL IN!
Of course, given Manning's age, it's definitely the right thing to do, and really, out of the AFC, who is there who can beat them?
If the Doncos improve the defense, especially at pass rush and in the secondary, who's to say they cannot go right back to the Super Bowl?
I wouldn't bet against them! They could easily lose guys like Decker and Nosering Potato (QB's on Facebook reference) and be just fine offensively, it was the other side of the ball, and special teams (lack of balance!!!) that was their Achilles Heal.

Yea, that deal with Talib is insane. $57M over 6 years with $26M guaranteed? Sure makes you wonder how much money Sherman could get on the FA market.

It sure does.

IMO, I think the Seahawks need to plan Now for Sherman's possible departure which, sadly, I could see happening pretty easy. Somebody out there is likely gonna be able to offer a lot more than Seattle. And just like we've seen so far, and as FA typically goes, the highest bidder wins. Michael Bennett's case is the exception, not the rule.

Sherman has his ring now. All these guys do. And in many cases, that actually makes it much easier to bail. And if the contract is significantly bigger, it makes sense in terms of financial security, which really trumps all else at the end of the day. Everybody wants to win a Lombardi, but the jackpot that matters most is setting up yourself and your family as best you can.

I also just don't spot RS as the type to be any different than anybody else money wise. I hope between this year's draft - and next - we find a guy that, while not being the same claibre, can do a good enough job to keep the secondary effective as a whole. A better pass rush would also help negate a potential big loss of somebody like Richard.

I'm not rooting for any of this to happen, mind you. But anybody who's watched the NFL longer than, say, 4 years, knows how this league is as much - if not more - about business than anything else.

I think we'll still have our LOB, but the cast could change by next year, and we just have to hope that if it does that the show won't suck:)

[RiverDog]

"I also just don't spot RS as the type to be any different than anybody else money wise."

Me, either. Some suggested that we should derive some sort of comfort from Richard Sherman's lobbying of teammates to stick with us that it was an indication that he was going to take some sort of home town discount to stay with us when it's his turn to negotiate a contract. The reality is that players are as bad about double speak as coaches are. Put yourself in their situation: Are you going to say no to someone that flashes that much more additional cash in front of your face? Golden Tate openly expressed a willingness to take a home town discount to play for us yet when the money was flashed in front of his eyes, he opted to play the best years of his career in a filthy, bombed out rust belt city who's owner just died and who's playoff record is by far the worst in the league. If Tate's head was that easily turned, then what is there about Richard Sherman that makes us think that he's going to be any different?

[NorthHawk]

The impression I got from Tate was the money was significantly different.
He also said he had interest from the 49ers but would never go there because it would be too disrespectful to Seattle.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/ ... cation=rss

[HumanCockroach]

Seattle's pass rush is not only good, it was the BEST in the NFL. Don't get tied up in sack totals guys, Seattle applied pressure to the QB on 43% of all QB drop backs last season, 2nd had something like 31%. They didn't just lead the league, they dominated the league, and did it while seldom blitzing. Sherman isn't going to get 20 million a year thrown at him. It will be in that 10-12 million a year range over 4-5 years ( ie 5 years 57-60 million) and I just doubt it will be somewhere else.

We aren't talking about some idiotic 100 million dollar contract, if some other team is stupid enough to offer it, more power to them, and if Sherman wants the money, and decides he never wants to win, so be it. That amount of money destroys a teams ability to compete, and Sherman knows it.

Not overly worried whether they can resign him.

[Eaglehawk]

The impression I got from Tate was the money was significantly different.
He also said he had interest from the 49ers but would never go there because it would be too disrespectful to Seattle.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/ ... cation=rss

Tate is truly a class act. I will miss him.

[savvyman]

Thurmond & Browner are both in Washington DC for a visit with the Redskins. That's two teams in two days for both players.

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6107/redskins-to-host-browner-thurmond

[monkey]

The Saints are also looking at Browner...seems like they are trying to make their own version of the LOB with their recent moves, and visits.

[Agent 86]

Jason Hatcher to visit Seattle.

This would be a HUGELY underrated move if it were to happen! Hatcher has been around the league for a while and has always had a high motor with legit pass rush skills from the tackle spot.
I would be VERY, VERY in favor of this if it were to happen...in fact I would say that it would be nearly on par with how I felt last year when word came out we signed Bennett (who I was actually even higher on than I was Cliff Avril...which is saying something because I LOVED the Avril signing.) He would fit into the rotation SO nicely...he could potentially come in for Bennett when he needs a breather, or slides out to end, without losing pass rush from the DT spot.
Seriously...this is a move I'd do a big fist pump over, it would make our D-Line rotation as a whole INSANELY O.P.!

EDIT: BTW the Saints defense just got better really quick. Now only the Seahawks can honestly say that they have a better pair of safeties than the Saints.
That's a pretty sick tandem right there.
Also, the Broncos by adding TJ Ward have helped themselves, and if they also add one of either Demarcus Ware or Jared Allen as they are rumored to be in the hunt for, they will also have upgraded their defense quite a bit.
Remember to that they will have Miller back next year...that could be a much improved defense.

Hatcher is now off the market, having signed a deal with the Redskins.....



NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that the Redskins have agreed to terms on a four-year, $27.5 million contract with Hatcher.