Pete Prisco, I dub thee, sir Skip Bayless 2.0

[monkey]

I didn't want to do this, but I had to. I consider it a public service announcement to Seahawks fans, because they have the right to know where the negative garbage about Wilson is originating from.
I had to because, we need to know that Pete Prisco has moved from the role of bad writer/professional troll, to official Russell Wilson hater.

Seriously, this guy just cannot stop hating Russell Wilson...I don't get what his problem is, (his dreams of being a low level mafia bookie didn't work out after repeatedly losing money on the Seahawks, so he went into writing?) but he just can't stop writing and saying negative bullspit about him.

http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/nfl/206197315565/0/nfl-prisco-on-russell-wilson

I can't get past the fact that he actually claimed to have been warning our GM not to sign Wilson to a large contract because he's not a franchise QB...really?
I don't believe for a second that he actually said all of that to Schnieder, I think he's at least exaggerating, and probably is a baldfaced liar, but the fact he even thinks what he claims to have said to John, shows just what a complete tool, and fool he really is. If he did in fact say it...LOL!!! What a pinhead.

BTW, in case you think I am over-reacting, remember this chestnut from earlier this year?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/24131807/after-further-review-wilsons-great-on-the-run-so-why-rush-him
The comments section offers far more insight and analysis. Seriously, he's so bad and so full of crap that the freaking comments section is a better and more insightful read.

This guy has truly, fully entered Skip Bayless territory, and yet for some reason that I cannot fathom, people still give him credence and throw his name out as though he had any relevance whatsoever.
He's nothing more than a professional troll.

Come to think of it, I wish I could get a job like that!

[kalibane]

I've always thought Prisco was a tool and lately I think he's just kind of desperate for hits and he's trading on how much Seattle fans get after columnists on the internet. It's like his only way he stays relevant. He trolled the Ravens fans last year too. And the only time you ever hear his name is regarding something that he wrote that people think is ridiculous.

He does seem to have an aught against Wilson for some reason because there is no context for this conversation or subject since they can't even start talking to Wilson until after next season. It's a 50 second video that tells us he's not sold on Wilson and nothing else with no reasoning. He's clearly just looking for a reaction. There are millions of people with YouTube accounts doing that.

I honestly don't know why football people even tolerate guys like Prisco though. If he seriously walked up to a guy who turned around a bottom 10 NFL team in 4 years to become champs and tried to advise him on how to build it for the future he's got some serious balls... and that's not a compliment. Check your ego and stay in your lane.

by the way how'd that Bengals vs. Falcons superbowl pick work out for you Prisco?

[PasadenaHawk]

I ignore anything either of these two say. They are entertainers,antagonists. That's the way news has gone.

[Eaglehawk]

I ignore anything either of these two say. They are entertainers,antagonists. That's the way news has gone.

Agreed. Pure entertainment. Don't empower them by reading or listening to anything they say about RW.

[burrrton]

The "Russel Wilson can't excel if you ______________" nonsense has been so thoroughly and effectively rebutted that it's not even worth responding to anymore.

Pick virtually *any* measure of QB success/skill:

* in the pocket
* out of the pocket
* 3rd-down
* short passes
* quick passes
* downfield passes
* deep ball
* running
* not running
* winning
* winning against good teams
* winning against bad teams
* scoring
* scoring when the defense struggles
*anything*

and RW's numbers hold up well if they don't place him among the elite.

That some dork who went to J-school still isn't "buying it" says a lot about his grasp of the NFL and nothing about Wilson.

[kalibane]

Bayless has always been a clown. He built his entire career on being a lightning rod and taking ridiculous positions. Prisco is a sadder case IMO. He was actually a writer who built his career on being a journalist. He is the senior NFL writer on CBS who's job is to cover the NFL, not an op-ed writer on Page 2 or a talk show host who's job is to provide commentary on sports in general (which is what Skip Bayless was hired to be when he got with ESPN). Skip isn't expected to know everything about every sport because it's impossible to cover it all. All Prisco does is cover the NFL so he has a different standard for expected knowledge. And he has the clout and the seniority with CBS to cover the game however he chooses to. His peers are guys like Clayton, Kirwin and Peter King.

Now I have my issues with a lot of guys, Peter King being one of them. But most of his generation of peers is professional. Prisco instead of opting to be professional like those three has decided he's going to co-op traits of guys like Bayless into his writing just so he can score hits or be mentioned. The way he approaches his craft the last 4-5 years has the feel of an old guy who gets hair plugs and a corvette, not realizing it doesn't keep him relevant, it just makes him look a little silly.

[NorthHawk]

He says Wilson's not a pocket passer - yet. He also says Wilson might get there in time.
It's pretty hard to be a consistent pocket passer when the pocket rarely lasts long enough to go through the progressions.

Prisco also seems to not understand how the QB position in the NFL is evolving. I doubt we will see a lot of QBs with the limited mobility of Brady and Manning(s) in the future. It's not how the NFL seems to be trending today. I'm sure there will always be a few, but it won't be the norm in my opinion.

[burrrton]

"Not a pocket passer" and "doesn't consistently throw from the pocket" are two different statements with different implications.

The latter could just be due to circumstances, but the former implies a lack of ability to do so.

RW has shown, when he's able to stand in the pocket, he's deadly effective. That's a "pocket passer". Just because he doesn't do it 50x a game doesn't mean he's not good enough to.

[kalibane]

Pretty much. When you have defensive ends like Clowney coming into the league, standing in the pocket like Troy Aikman is going to result in a career too short to learn how to master reading defenses and getting the ball out the way Brady and Manning have.

[Hawktawk]

What a tool. Tell me Pete, who was the best QB on the field Feb 2nd? Mr all world pocket statue? Come on now.

2 plays in the SB, back to back plays, show the brilliance of Russell Wilson. The first a disaster averted on the idiotic throwback play when Wilson reels in the wounded duck from Lynch, sidesteps a ferocious rush and escapes to flip the ball towards Miller. It wound up incomplete but a brilliant play by RW. The very next play he lobs a perfect rainbow from the pocket to Baldwin to set up a score."What a throw! What a catch!".
The play that put RW on the map, the bomb vs NE in 2012 was from the pocket as well. 14 of Wilsons 26 TD passes in 2012 were thrown from the pocket.What kind of drugs is this guy on?

I swear there is a veiled bias against this kid because so many of these pundits drooling over RG3 and Tannehill were so WRONG about Wilson.

Yeah buddy, I'm sure Schneider was all ears to take Priscos advice. LMAO.

[RiverDog]

I didn't find it completely outrageous or hateful, just plain wrong.

More so this season than last, Russell Wilson stayed in the pocket on most occasions. When he did run, it wasn't because he broke the pocket early, it was because either his pass protection broke down or running was his best option, not because he was a run-first quarterback. Quite the contrary, I felt that there were a number of situations where Russell didn't run when he should have. In addition, I'm willing to bet that he carried the ball on the read option fewer times than he did last season. I honestly don't think Prisco watched as many Seahawk games as we all have or else he would not have made his statement about RW not being a pocket passing quarterback. He's also not taking into consideration that the Seahawks are not calling on him to win games, that most of the time last season, he was playing with a lead, that he has one of the best running backs in the league to hand off to, so of course, he's not going to be the pass happy quarterback that a Drew Brees or Tom Brady is. Russell is already a top 10 quarterback. Top 3 if you ask me, but Top 5 under most of the objective criteria.

As far as the decision to lock him up, we have to. There is no other option. Even if he was as unproven as Prisco contends, it is worth the risk to sign him now rather than risk losing him and being back in the market for another quarterback. Besides, much like our decision to resign Shaun Alexander in 2006, the Seahawk fans will demand it. What Prisco does not recognize is the spirit of the 12th man, and that Russell Wilson has become the Face of the Franchise, and that we'll either go down in a ball of flames with Russell or we'll be perennial SB contenders with him.

[kalibane]

Riv,

With Prisco it's not any one thing he says about him but he has kind of systematically taken unprovoked shots at Wilson all year. He wrote like two columns where Wilson wasn't really the focus of the article but he felt the need to downgrade him. Then he did a film breakdown of Wilson and his findings found that Wilson was flawed and couldn't win from the pocket. Now he goes to the Owner's Meetings and he feels the need to make a special video with no context to let everyone know that he talked to Schneider and tell him that he wasn't sold on Wilson.

It's the pattern. He seems very much invested in writing negative evaluations of Wilson.

[NorthHawk]

If Prisco was a coach, he'd be one of those who would pull Wilson the first mistake he made and never let him on the field again no matter how bad the other guy was.
He just has that bias and won't let go. Part of me thinks it's the height prejudice and he's using the Pocket Passer routine as an excuse.

[RiverDog]

Riv,

With Prisco it's not any one thing he says about him but he has kind of systematically taken unprovoked shots at Wilson all year. He wrote like two columns where Wilson wasn't really the focus of the article but he felt the need to downgrade him. Then he did a film breakdown of Wilson and his findings found that Wilson was flawed and couldn't win from the pocket. Now he goes to the Owner's Meetings and he feels the need to make a special video with no context to let everyone know that he talked to Schneider and tell him that he wasn't sold on Wilson.

It's the pattern. He seems very much invested in writing negative evaluations of Wilson.

I haven't read all of Prisco's works. I was simply taking that little sound bite at face value, and didn't find what he said on that occasion to be particularly outrageous or insulting. It's certainly not 'hateful' and I'm stopping short of calling it biased. But I can't emphasize enough how misinformed he is. I honestly don't think he's followed our team like we all have or else he wouldn't have made such a gross misjudgment.

Sometimes I think that reporters like him are simply looking for attention/readers rather than being accurate and objective.

[monkey]

Riv,

With Prisco it's not any one thing he says about him but he has kind of systematically taken unprovoked shots at Wilson all year. He wrote like two columns where Wilson wasn't really the focus of the article but he felt the need to downgrade him. Then he did a film breakdown of Wilson and his findings found that Wilson was flawed and couldn't win from the pocket. Now he goes to the Owner's Meetings and he feels the need to make a special video with no context to let everyone know that he talked to Schneider and tell him that he wasn't sold on Wilson.

It's the pattern. He seems very much invested in writing negative evaluations of Wilson.

EXACTLY!

I would have loved to hear how this supposed conversation with Schnieder went down...I'd like to imagine that it ended with John saying something like, "OKaaaay...well...thanks Mr. ahh...what's your name again? I'll be sure to keep that in mind. *says in an extremely sarcastic tone of voice* Good thing you warned us about our Super Bowl winning QB not being a real franchise QB...here we were thinking of signing him to a long term deal when we're able to NEXT year.
*Starts coughing to cover up the laughter* Well, good talk, there, ahhh Mr...fella.
*Says as he's walking away* Don't quit your day job.

[monkey]

I haven't read all of Prisco's works. I was simply taking that little sound bite at face value, and didn't find what he said on that occasion to be particularly outrageous or insulting. It's certainly not 'hateful' and I'm stopping short of calling it biased. But I can't emphasize enough how misinformed he is. I honestly don't think he's followed our team like we all have or else he wouldn't have made such a gross misjudgment.

Sometimes I think that reporters like him are simply looking for attention/readers rather than being accurate and objective.

Kalibane is exactly right Riv, the guy has had a mad on for Wilson since...well since the first thing he printed about him I think.
I have no idea what his deal is, maybe he's a closet Kaepernick or RG3 fan and is sick of having Wilson show up his boys on a weekly basis...I dunno but the guy clearly has some weird motivation to try to persuade people that Wilson isn't a franchise QB.

[RiverDog]

I haven't read all of Prisco's works. I was simply taking that little sound bite at face value, and didn't find what he said on that occasion to be particularly outrageous or insulting. It's certainly not 'hateful' and I'm stopping short of calling it biased. But I can't emphasize enough how misinformed he is. I honestly don't think he's followed our team like we all have or else he wouldn't have made such a gross misjudgment.

Sometimes I think that reporters like him are simply looking for attention/readers rather than being accurate and objective.

Kalibane is exactly right Riv, the guy has had a mad on for Wilson since...well since the first thing he printed about him I think.
I have no idea what his deal is, maybe he's a closet Kaepernick or RG3 fan and is sick of having Wilson show up his boys on a weekly basis...I dunno but the guy clearly has some weird motivation to try to persuade people that Wilson isn't a franchise QB.

Could be. I'm not contesting anything you guys have said about Prisco. I'm just saying that from my standpoint of not having read a lot of his works, or at least not realizing what I was reading was authored by him, that this one piece was not all that outrageous or as a Seahawk fan, insulting to me like it is to you guys. He's just wrong. Dead wrong.

[EntiatHawk]

Just take the S and O out of his name (Prisco) and you get it right

This guy is a tool. I do not even know how some of these guys can say they are analyst.

[HumanCockroach]

Prisco hasn't been convinced about Wilson since he was drafted. Wilson remembers ( as do the entire F graded draft of 2012), doesn't matter, the FO has been, the fans have been, and eventually Prisco will be ( after a few more championships that are on their way) at which point he'll completely change his misinformed stupid opinion and claim he was always on the Wilson train ( probably did the same with players like Brady and Brees)....

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-fo ... raft-class

[Oly]

I think you got it backward, monkey: Bayless is Prisco 2.0. Prisco has been both anti-Hawks and bad for longer than I remember Bayless even being on the air.

I quit paying attention to most national media years ago, but before I did, Prisco was the only national media writer/analyst/TV-idiot that I refused to read/watch solely because of clear anti-Seahawks. There are some former players who are now analysts that have this problem, but I don't know of any supposed journalist whose bias is so clear.

But we're in agreement that they both are tools and should be avoided at all costs.

[monkey]

I think you got it backward, monkey: Bayless is Prisco 2.0. Prisco has been both anti-Hawks and bad for longer than I remember Bayless even being on the air.

I quit paying attention to most national media years ago, but before I did, Prisco was the only national media writer/analyst/TV-idiot that I refused to read/watch solely because of clear anti-Seahawks. There are some former players who are now analysts that have this problem, but I don't know of any supposed journalist whose bias is so clear.

But we're in agreement that they both are tools and should be avoided at all costs.

I didn't know about that Oly, my memory of Prisco probably doesn't go as far back as yours does.
Bayless' stupidity came to my attention before Prisco's did, but Prisco, for as long as I have known about him, has always been an east coast homer, who seemed to have it out for anything Seattle.